Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.freeware,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Date: 6 Oct 2015 18:44:55 GMT Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <86549329f10d815d2e5922dee68cf94a@anemone.mooo.com> <210920151816339085%nospam@nospam.invalid> <210920151849448520%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151828504734%nospam@nospam.invalid> <5tmdnY_rbLLTfY7LnZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net zZ6NGr2X11OkIvNvq7mgZgZQTxz/8fokus5V0J7EUtgMncvhgM Cancel-Lock: sha1:O309nFECNS/s0WOhB/SdHgufosY= sha1:xPQw7sgpY9lM7DTCOrlCjRupArc= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.0 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:81949 alt.comp.freeware:245125 alt.hacker:8832 alt.privacy.anon-server:45994 comp.os.linux.advocacy:324988 Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>>> nom de plume wrote: >>>>> On 2015-10-06, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> So far, I have only mentioned what those commands are for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mostly for solving the dependencies issues you have on Linux. Oh, and >>>>>> losing preferences when you upgrade or downgrade a program. Just what >>>>>> every high skilled tech does! :) >>>>> >>>>> The command shows required dependencies. >>>> >>>> OS X manages app dependencies automatically. Your commands are therefore >>>> useless. >>> >>> This is total bollocks >> >> Nope. > > Yes > >>> OSX does the worst way of handling libraries. It packs them with the >>> program and other resources into "bundles" >>> Meaning: You can have the same libraries of same and / or different >>> version several times on your machine, in several different program >>> bundles. It is the OSX way to windows DLL hell >> >> Wrong. Apparently you never bothered to learn that OS X developers make >> frequent use of shared libraries and frameworks. > > I never said otherwise. But if you "install" a bundle, those libraries are > *not* moved around on the system, they stay in the bundle. Not always nope. Your broad generalizations are incorrect. > Translation: The same libraries, of different versions, can be several times > on the same machine. This is *not* a good idea. It was how windows got DLL > hell Nope, it's nowhere near as much of a problem as you wish it was. >>> And all this idiocy because apple was too incompetent to provide a decent >>> package management system, and the OSX users are too damn stupid to >>> follow simple instructions to install the needed dependencies >> >> Dependencies are managed effectively and automatically. > > Wrong. They are not handled at all by bundles I didn't say anything about bundles. Keep reaching! >> Want to delete an >> app? Drag it to the trash. Want to delete an app's preferences? Drag them >> to the trash. It's that simple on OS X. > > Thats not even remotely "handling dependencies" A key part of managing dependencies is reducing them so they aren't a problem from the start. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR