Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Parsons Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Date: 5 Oct 2015 19:07:38 GMT Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <86549329f10d815d2e5922dee68cf94a@anemone.mooo.com> <210920151816339085%nospam@nospam.invalid> <210920151849448520%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151828504734%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151852561506%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151911207774%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020152005503949%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020152029590863%nospam@nospam.invalid> <5612928c$0$49041$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com> <051020151258277615%nospam@nospam.invalid> <3ZSdnZTmLryQJ4_LnZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@supernews.com> <6sCdndzDW9GzW4_LnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@bresnan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net LyPXipQawPPFmykVQqnxdQ8ovxGRscek2pyzC8CIDk9WQc5//s Cancel-Lock: sha1:BUmd8HenobqyjdN24PQaHGweHmU= User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.freeware:244777 comp.sys.mac.system:81598 comp.os.linux.advocacy:324549 On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 12:49:16 -0600, GreyCloud wrote: > On 10/05/15 12:12, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >> On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:57:32 -0400, nom de plume wrote: >> >>> On 2015-10-05, nospam wrote: >>>> In article, nom de >>>> plume wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm sure you've heard the expression that there is a kid on every >>>>> block that can probably fix your computer. Look at all the gamers >>>>> out there that build their own PCs for high performance gaming. >>>> >>>> gaming systems is not apple's target demographic nor is it a lot of >>>> companies. >>>> >>>> it's a very specialized niche and apple is more than happy to not >>>> bother with it. >>> >>> So on topic of target audiences, who is the target for Linux? What >>> does the Linux user want? >>> >>>>> Plenty of young people are doing amazing things in the computer >>>>> sciences these days. It's a growing enterprise. >>>> >>>> very few are building their own computers and that number is dropping >>>> as mobile becomes vastly more popular. >>> >>> Hey, not that I don't trust you or anything... Could you back that one >>> up, please? >>> >> No. :) >> If you look at sales figures from the various companies and their >> financials you'll see that it is laptops/hybrids and mobile that are >> garnering the bulk of sales these days. A quick stop at the big box >> store will show some indication. Usually about 20+ laptops/hybrids on >> display and maybe 2 towers but more often just one. >> >>>> you don't see anyone building their own laptops, tablets or phones. >>> >>> :) Actually, I did see a few of those. And they were big, and >>> interesting. But I take your point. Desktops on the other hand, I >>> disagree. And servers, oh I see those being built by joe-somebody all >>> the time. >> >> Why in the world would they want to do that? I mean we used to do >> that, >> but Compaq's servers were just superb. I know they are HP's now, but >> have they changed that much? > > Unfortunately, yes. HP has acquired the Fiorina syndrome of trying to > make the parts as cheap as possible. Spending more for better hardware > from HP usually solves the problem, especially in the server arena. > > Right now, HP has split off the PC and server divisions where HP keeps > the servers as it is more profitable for them. Who they sold the PC > division to, I don't know. This was discussed over in the c.o.v > newsgroup. > I went to school on the Proliants so we could be a service center for them. I remember that they didn't even talk about the small ones we were selling at all. Can't remember which model was the lowest they discussed, but it was one ass-kicking server. -- Lloyd