Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Date: 25 Sep 2015 05:06:05 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 89 Message-ID: References: <220920150315428842%nospam@nospam.invalid> <91777a714f0d3c05732c6cc8035a09ba@remailer.cpunk.us> <220920151252101796%nospam@nospam.invalid> <220920152128268439%michelle@michelle.org> <220920152224189621%michelle@michelle.org> <230920150841382109%michelle@michelle.org> <230920151950041296%nospam@nospam.invalid> <240920151943018063%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net F2FDj6B1fvhwnfVIn1wcAAYuj5X6B2TzuBzDjKsbW40LAQ3rlZ Cancel-Lock: sha1:ELghQACFbaZdukguuQu8FrQmwH8= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.freeware:243903 comp.sys.mac.system:80567 alt.hacker:8306 alt.privacy.anon-server:45452 comp.os.linux.advocacy:322864 On 2015-09-25, Nobody wrote: > On 9/24/2015 10:29 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-09-25, Nobody wrote: >>> >>> "Users who tried to sync and update an iPod with music from the likes of >>> Amazon or 7Digital were told there was an error with their iPod that >>> could only be solved with a factory restore through iTunes, which >>> completely wiped the iPod." >>> >>> "Restoring the iPod from iTunes would not restore music from rival >>> services. Apple decided to “not to tell users the problem” Coughlin >>> explained." >> >> The files were still on their computers. Not a single individual lost a >> song, and that's a fact recorded in the case history. The offending >> fake DRM songs were simply omitted from the iPod. >> >>>> the *only* thing that happened was if you had songs with hacked drm, >>>> they would not be synced to an ipod. they were still on your hard >>>> drive. >>> >>> If you had it on your hard drive. >> >> The songs *were* already on the hard drive, since it was the action of >> synchronizing them from the computer to the iPod that resulted in the >> message telling users they had to do a factory restore - as you quoted >> above. You are being foolish. > > "Attorneys representing the plaintiffs in a potentially billion dollar > antitrust class-action lawsuit against Apple for abuse of its iTunes > Music Store dominance told the jury that the Californian electronics > company scanned for music not bought from iTunes, and forced a factory > reset of the iPod if any was detected." Those attorneys lost the case in spectacular fashion - the judge admonished them about their attempts to mislead the court. It's all on public record, dummy. Educate yourself, fool. > I see you had to snip that out. It's untrue and was written before the lawsuit was even over. > Apple scanned users personal files, Nope, they simply checked the validity of FairPlay DRM protected files being transferred to iPods. > Then they triggered a wipe of the device if they were detected. If by "triggered" you mean "displayed a message stating the user was not permitted to synchronize hacked FairPlay DRM files to Apple's iPods and instructed users to restore their iPods", then yes. : ) > Legal music legally purchased from rival sellers was wiped. Nope, it was simply not allowed to be transfered to iPods. The music files were not wiped from the computer. > Not pirated music. Not hacked DRM. Yep, hacked DRM. You are clueless. >>> It doesn't excuse Apple from scanning for music from rival services >>> and deleted it from your iPod. >> >> Apple didn't scan for anything but legitimate DRM protection. If a song >> was using illegitimate hacked DRM protection, Apple simply refused to >> copy it from the computer to the device. Users didn't lose the songs on >> their computer. Not a single person did, as is recorded in the court >> case documents. > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/04/apple-deleted-music-ipods-rivals-steve-jobs Your tired repetition of this Guardian article that was written before the lawsuit was finished and simply repeats lies told by the attorneys who LOST the case and were specifically ADMONISHED by the judge for their antics and lies is boring. Try harder - you are failing. > Hmm... they have a word for what you are... wait...it'll come to me... > oh yes...WRONG... you are completely and horribly WRONG. You are projecting again. Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make you appear any smarter, either. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR