Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Date: 25 Sep 2015 03:20:35 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <220920150315428842%nospam@nospam.invalid> <91777a714f0d3c05732c6cc8035a09ba@remailer.cpunk.us> <220920151252101796%nospam@nospam.invalid> <220920152128268439%michelle@michelle.org> <220920152224189621%michelle@michelle.org> <230920150841382109%michelle@michelle.org> <230920151950041296%nospam@nospam.invalid> <230920152007454989%nospam@nospam.invalid> <230920152020492033%nospam@nospam.invalid> <240920151933313840%nospam@nospam.invalid> X-Trace: individual.net fpzWVmApS7kasuaNlvgmKQ1BrQ2askiQrSaHEbdSXcsxfGsZaO Cancel-Lock: sha1:HtuNBEPBjwhs7/i+27hVROndQPo= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.freeware:243880 comp.sys.mac.system:80543 alt.hacker:8283 alt.privacy.anon-server:45429 comp.os.linux.advocacy:322840 On 2015-09-25, Nobody wrote: > On 9/24/2015 6:33 PM, nospam wrote: >> In article , Nobody >> wrote: >> >>>>> They removed content because it lacked DRM. >>>> >>>> nope. they removed content because it *had* drm which had been *hacked*. >>> >>> That doesn't mean squat. It had to hack the DRM to get iTunes to play it. >> >> nonsense. itunes plays non-drm content. >> >> the problem is that real networks hacked fairplay to fool itunes, which >> is illegal. > > Now you finally got to the real reason behind all of this, and it has > nothing to do with stealing music or Apple's obligation to the record > companies. Wrong. It has everything to do with obligations to record companies. It was the record companies who forced Apple to create the DRM and ensure that the DRM was not circumvented or hacked, which is exactly what Real Networks did. > Apple needed to block a competitor to iTunes. Real Networks was hardly a competitor to Apple. Apple's iPods and iTunes effectively made Real Networks irrelevant, which is why they hacked FairPay to make their music appear to be Apple's. > If iTunes can play non-DRM content as you claim You really should come out from under your rock more often. Your ignorance is showing again. Apple hasn't sold DRM-protected music in many, many years. > how the hell would they differentiate between legal and stolen music Apple doesn't need or want to differentiate between "legal" and "stolen" music. In fact, Apple even allows customers to replace "stolen" and often inferior quality music with pristine high-quality "legal" tracks. > or iTunes and RealNetworks? When transferring music to an Apple device, Apple checks FairPlay DRM protected songs to ensure the DRM is valid. Real Networks hacked FairPlay DRM is not legitimate and therefore fails this test. It's that simple. > Why would Real have had to hack anything? Because Real Networks was desperate to sell their DRM protected music to Apple's customers, even if it meant breaking the law. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR