Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:10:17 -0600 From: ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) Subject: Re: Unable to boot up an old 15" MBP (2008)'s Mac OS X v10.5.8/LEOPARD... Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.portable,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems References: <180220171111393467%nospam@nospam.invalid> <180220171337449400%nospam@nospam.invalid> User-Agent: tin/2.4.0-20160823 ("Octomore") (UNIX) (Linux/4.7.9-100.fc23.x86_64 (x86_64)) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:10:17 -0600 Lines: 42 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.103.224.66 X-Trace: sv3-enADFM2lal+MSLFSGCY5AXrc+5gk+11KXJKTS2yB4vG0Z9dwp/kaYFhr4JmMh21RXFqBWsyy6Wym5H0!Az80B7ukfrnrQwHQbAinCWXI02M8XiBW1msENzfZ2AFE9x0/2NUP5cl5OQ889V6vFeS0P9v7oq2C!EQyGxxwAHgGhi+1k4zIW8Cd4uoDyGQQ= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3351 X-Received-Bytes: 3473 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1702514154 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.portables:1101 comp.sys.mac.system:100599 In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2017-02-18, Ant wrote: > > In comp.sys.mac.system nospam wrote: > >> In article , Ant > >> wrote: > > > >> > > in any event, boot from an external hard drive that has a known good > >> > > system. if *that* fails, it's probably hardware. if it works, then all > >> > > you need to do is clean install. > >> > > >> > OK. I am going to have to see if I can install 10.5.x into an external > >> > USB HDD with MBP's original DVDs. > > > >> it doesn't need to be 10.5. as long as it boots and operates normally, > >> you can be pretty sure that the hardware is not the problem. > > > >> > > if it is hardware and you have the dvd that came with the computer, try > >> > > booting while holding the d key down to run the hardware diagnostics > >> > > for additional information. > >> > > >> > Isn't that the same (memory tests?) as the one in MBP that I ran > >> > overnight? If so, then they passed. > > > >> i don't know what you ran, but the hardware diagnostics is more than > >> just a memory test. > > > > It said memory tests > It said way more than just memory tests. OK if you say so. Both tests passed. At least we know booting up MBP's included v10.5 DVD installer worked including its Disk Utility (permissions and disk in Hitachi internal HDD). -- Quote of the Week: "Applied mathematics will always need pure mathematics, just as anteaters will always need ants." --Paul Halmos Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.