Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

Date	2015-09-28 15:11 -0600
From	GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.freeware, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
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On 09/28/15 14:47, Snit wrote:
> On 9/28/15, 12:04 PM, in article
> YbmdnalDL-fSEpTLnZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"<cumulus@mist.com>
> wrote:
>
> ...
>>> Doing my normal fact checking: a little off but close enough (well for what
>>> they CAN be):
>>>
>>> <http://obamacarefacts.com/health-insurance/deductible/>
>>>       -----
>>>       Under ObamaCare Major Medical plans must meet certain cost sharing
>>>       requirements and can¹t have deductibles higher than out-of-pocket
>>>       maximum limits which are $6,600 for an individual and $13,200 for
>>>       a family in 2015. Depending on your income and plan you choose
>>>       deductibles can be lower, but not higher than those amounts. This
>>>       applies only to in-network deductibles.
>>>       -----
>>>
>>> I would say that is high. Fair enough.
>>>
>>>> So when you go to see your doctor for a problem, then you pay out of your
>>>> pocket the cost till you reach your high level for the year.  Other words,
>>>> what insurance?
>>>
>>> I would rather see lower deductibles but have co-pays to stop people from
>>> going for every sniffle.
>>
>> Get Blue-Cross Blue-Shield.
>> Mine is the Federal version and works pretty good.
>> The only thing I don't have is dental.  But I take care of that.
>
> Good point that there is no generally more choice in most markets and you
> can go with the one that fits you best. Often none are great choices though.
>

The FEDS a long time ago, when Aetna bailed out on the government 
workers, did a lot of research into which one would be a best fit and 
chose Blue Cross.  So I went with that one, even tho I had a choice.

>>> I do think the very right wing Obamacare is a step forward, but think the
>>> liberal plans would likely end up being better (single payer with co-pays).
>>>
>>> Checking now, the original Heritage Foundation document does say:
>>>
>>> <http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf>
>>>       -----
>>>       Under the proposal, the deductibles for Medicare would be
>>>       increased, and part of the savings used to offset the extra costs
>>>       for the less affluent elderly.
>>>       -----
>>>
>>> I do not see where it says anything else about deductibles specifically.
>>>
>> I hear people complaining about it tho.
>> That's why a lot of people are calling ObamaCare nothing more than a
>> tax, until you get into a major car accident or get cancer.  Either way,
>> you still have that big deductible staring you in the face.
>
> It is a tax... I do not think that is in debate. You can get rebates on
> taxes if you buy insurance yourself.
>
Hard to find a good insurace company these days tho.

-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:41 -0400
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