Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 08:39:12 -0500 Subject: Re: new iMac Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system References: <03fe9b64-f66c-4fe1-bc1f-a581dfb70fe3@googlegroups.com> <0PWdnQqxpe1gF3TInZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <040920151845128406%invid@loclanet.com> From: Alan Browne Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:39:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-idXPmQsOqcwLSJDaAlgiGh9am0NMTPf1Dff+/WY+qMhQdUGQyu/5NAMPhUF3PYKy+tmijU+gHq6UQJy!Wrc4bwIXvVmQVQQmHcUbhIWYs4j0G8LdMIuLKV7nopu64ev07jmeATI7e5mOegrI8qDYlugalQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2669 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:79563 On 2015-09-04 19:16, Ken Springer wrote: > On 9/4/15 4:53 PM, Alan Browne wrote: >> On 2015-09-04 18:45, Invid Fan wrote: >>> In article <0PWdnQqxpe1gF3TInZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-09-04 05:42, Frank wrote: >>>>> do new iMacs ship with user guide or manual? >>>> >>>> Waste of paper. >>>> >>>> There is a get going guide. OTOH, turn it on, enter (or not) the info >>>> it asks for and get whatever you need from the Apple site or many >>>> others. >>> >>> The only problem is if you're having trouble getting online. Having >>> most of the Help info actually on the computer instead of online would >>> be useful. There's no reason iBooks couldn't come with the correct >>> manual pre-installed. >> >> Can't disagree with you. OTOH, in a few decades of setting up new >> computers I've never needed a guide in getting a computer online >> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris) within minutes of installing the basic >> OS. That includes a very nasty period for Windows+Modems and ISP's that >> had no notion that users might need some guidance. > > The most negatively affected are the brand new user, not the experienced Back then I wasn't experienced. Managed. And it was much harder then, than now.