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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 4/22/17, 10:43 AM, in article op.yy3x6uohjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

>>> I give my parents the credit.
>>> You perhaps don't know how children are born?
>>> They have no say regarding their skin colour.
>>> 
>>>> i'm sure you can relate to that.
>>> 
>>> You're dumber than a brick.
>> 
>> Keep in mind that in general it is the liberal states who give to the
>> federal government and the conservative states who take. Not 100%, but the
>> tendency is clearly there.
> 
> I'm in the UK so things may be different, and I'm not sure if the labels mean
> the same thing.  But here, the conservative government (right wing,
> capitalist) saves money and doesn't spend much.  The labour government (left
> wing, socialist) spends money on everything, promising better healthcare and
> education, and ends up putting the country into more and more debt, then the
> conservatives have to raise the taxes to recover when they next get in, which
> of course labour blames them for.

The conservatives will say the same thing about the US, but it is not how it
works... BOTH major parties (we have only two) are paid for and beholden to
wealthy interests. They serve the wealthy. Here is a BBC article on it:

    <http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746>

The Democrats put some efforts into protecting human rights and the
environment, but generally as little as they can get away with and often
doing things for show more than real purpose. This is what lead to us
getting Trump who is an utter joke. The Democrats pushed through Clinton who
was clearly serving the rich and even talked about having a public agenda
for the people and a private agenda for them (not her exact words). It is
pretty gross.

At this point the US is the wealthiest country in the world but most of our
new wealth goes to the very rich and they take and take and take. Then they
control the media and push the idea, which many buy, that the poor -- those
with the least power and ability to take ANYTHING -- are somehow the
"takers"... a claim which makes absolutely no sense. This is a decent
summary:

<https://mitpress.mit.edu/vanishing>
    -----
    The United States is becoming a nation of rich and poor, with few
    families in the middle. In this book, MIT economist Peter Temin
    offers an illuminating way to look at the vanishing middle class.
    Temin argues that American history and politics, particularly
    slavery and its aftermath, play an important part in the widening
    gap between rich and poor. Temin employs a well-known, simple model
    of a dual economy to examine the dynamics of the rich/poor divide in
    America, and outlines ways to work toward greater equality so that
    America will no longer have one economy for the rich and one for the
    poor.

    Many poorer Americans live in conditions resembling those of a
    developing country‹substandard education, dilapidated housing, and
    few stable employment opportunities. And although almost half of
    black Americans are poor, most poor people are not black.
    Conservative white politicians still appeal to the racism of poor
    white voters to get support for policies that harm low-income people
    as a whole, casting recipients of social programs as the
    Other‹black, Latino, not like "us." Politicians also use mass
    incarceration as a tool to keep black and Latino Americans from
    participating fully in society. Money goes to a vast entrenched
    prison system rather than to education. In the dual justice system,
    the rich pay fines and the poor go to jail.
    -----

It has been getting worse and worse here since the 1980s.



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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
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