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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech |
| Subject | Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution |
| Date | 2017-03-22 15:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D4F8450F.96C7E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <oaup9a$pfo$1@dont-email.me> <D4F838AA.96C52%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <220320171734170041%nospam@nospam.invalid> <oaurps$2gv$1@dont-email.me> <220320171800586065%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
Cross-posted to 5 groups.
On 3/22/17, 3:00 PM, in article 220320171800586065%nospam@nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <oaurps$2gv$1@dont-email.me>, Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is
>>>>> because the coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and
>>>>> because the shitty car she was in had no cup holder. In the
>>>>> end, if McDonald's can be sued for the coffee being too hot
>>>>> then the car manufacturer should also have been sued for not
>>>>> providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
>>>>
>>>> Was the car manufacture doing something outside the accepted
>>>> norms and regulations of their industry? Had they been warned
>>>> about this before? Were they actively ignoring those warnings?
>>>>
>>>> If so then I would say you are correct and they, too, could be
>>>> held liable.
>>>
>>> the car had nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Yes, because the woman was burned between the legs as a result of
>> there not being a cup holder in the car. She couldn't hold it for some
>> reason and had no cup holder to place it into so she left the coffee
>> cup between her legs. Doing so caused unimaginable damage and those
>> burns were the reason she ended up suing the company.
>
> nope, that's not why.
>
> she was burned because mcdonald's knowingly sold coffee that was
> dangerously hot and which they never tested for safety, by their own
> admission, and which had burned over 700 other customers in the
> previous ten years, some caused by their own employees.
For those who want to know more details on this case:
<https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts>
-----
Here is some of the evidence the jury heard during the trial:
* McDonald's operations manual required the franchisee to hold its
coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit.
* Coffee at that temperature, if spilled, causes third-degree burns
in three to seven seconds.
* The chairman of the department of mechanical engineering and
biomechanical engineering at the University of Texas testified that
this risk of harm is unacceptable, as did a widely recognized expert
on burns, the editor-in-chief of the Journal of Burn Care and
Rehabilitation, the leading scholarly publication in the specialty.
* McDonald's admitted it had known about the risk of serious burns
from its scalding hot coffee for more than 10 years. The risk had
repeatedly been brought to its attention through numerous other
claims and suits.
* An expert witness for the company testified that the number of
burns was insignificant compared to the billions of cups of coffee
the company served each year.
* At least one juror later told the Wall Street Journal she thought
the company wasn't taking the injuries seriously. To the corporate
restaurant giant those 700 injury cases caused by hot coffee seemed
relatively rare compared to the millions of cups of coffee served.
But, the juror noted, "there was a person behind every number and I
don't think the corporation was attaching enough importance to
that."
* McDonald's quality assurance manager testified that McDonald's
coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into Styrofoam
cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth
and throat.
* McDonald's admitted at trial that consumers were unaware of the
extent of the risk of serious burns from spilled coffee served at
McDonald's then-required temperature.
* McDonald's admitted it did not warn customers of the nature and
extent of this risk and could offer no explanation as to why it did
not.
-----
Some say it was frivolous. Some say it was reasonable and with merit. Either
way, those are (from what we know) the facts of the case.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-22 17:17 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-23 10:06 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-27 04:53 +0000
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-28 02:31 +0000
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 19:33 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 13:58 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-28 16:57 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 22:53 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-28 18:09 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-29 18:53 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-28 19:46 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 14:20 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-29 14:36 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-31 12:48 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 19:07 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 17:33 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 17:33 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-31 13:37 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 18:56 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 23:44 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-28 14:15 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 21:27 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-28 21:56 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-28 15:33 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-28 20:08 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 22:20 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 11:03 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 12:17 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 21:24 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-29 08:50 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-29 09:26 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 11:08 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-29 12:22 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 18:45 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-29 13:16 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-29 11:20 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 18:52 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-29 22:39 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-29 12:33 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-29 13:18 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-27 13:52 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-27 19:56 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 15:17 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-27 17:17 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 19:37 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 14:02 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 21:27 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-28 15:31 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 22:19 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-03-28 21:20 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-28 13:54 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 22:53 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-03-28 19:50 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-29 19:53 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 14:25 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-29 13:11 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-03-29 19:16 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-30 01:27 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 22:41 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution hah <hah@no.email.stupid.invalid> - 2017-03-29 19:09 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-30 01:26 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 22:37 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 23:51 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution notX <no.email@dummy.invalid> - 2017-03-30 13:06 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-30 01:25 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 23:46 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 19:03 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 16:10 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 16:12 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-31 10:17 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 17:07 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-31 13:10 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 21:42 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-29 22:24 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 23:26 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-27 12:53 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 14:33 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-28 12:02 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-28 09:32 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 13:55 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-28 13:32 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 22:45 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 21:17 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-29 22:23 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-29 15:06 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 16:07 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 19:22 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-30 01:24 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 23:42 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-28 14:14 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-26 10:11 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 16:22 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 08:42 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 16:49 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-26 10:52 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution notX <no.email@dummy.invalid> - 2017-03-26 20:52 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 11:38 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 16:48 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-26 10:55 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 17:11 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 12:02 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 17:13 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-26 11:19 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution hah <hah@no.email.stupid.invalid> - 2017-03-26 20:57 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-27 20:42 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-23 14:52 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-24 09:10 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-24 09:49 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-24 07:31 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-24 10:34 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-24 07:49 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-24 08:34 -0700
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-24 12:03 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-24 12:44 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-25 13:34 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 11:44 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 12:47 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 16:09 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 13:52 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 15:29 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 15:38 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 15:47 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 16:56 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-25 16:47 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 15:26 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 15:48 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 18:50 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 16:27 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 19:29 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 16:59 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-25 19:45 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 17:21 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-26 02:20 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 08:51 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 12:12 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 11:40 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-03-26 19:57 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 13:27 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 17:01 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 19:22 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 16:51 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 19:23 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-27 14:32 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-26 21:14 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-26 21:03 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-27 10:46 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-27 10:41 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-26 02:00 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 08:53 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 12:13 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-26 11:46 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-27 10:49 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-27 09:37 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-27 14:41 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-27 15:55 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-24 17:10 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-24 21:39 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-24 21:04 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 08:47 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:04 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-25 04:06 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-25 08:48 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:04 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2017-03-25 14:43 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-25 16:45 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:03 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:02 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 12:37 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 22:12 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-24 07:19 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-24 11:09 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:05 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-25 19:54 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 15:27 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 11:42 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 16:50 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-26 12:04 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-26 17:13 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-26 21:00 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-27 20:43 +0100
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-24 04:00 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:07 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-23 14:24 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-23 10:02 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-23 11:59 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-23 12:58 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-23 13:38 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-23 14:30 -0500
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-24 13:21 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-24 08:44 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-24 14:06 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-24 11:12 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-24 16:36 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-24 12:09 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-24 17:13 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-03-24 13:43 -0500
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-24 22:57 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-25 07:56 +1100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:09 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-23 12:53 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-25 23:08 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-22 14:20 -0700
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-22 15:13 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-22 18:30 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-22 19:26 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-03-23 10:15 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 18:14 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 18:42 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 19:28 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 12:06 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 13:08 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 16:07 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-23 16:29 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 18:59 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-23 14:13 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 19:12 -0400
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-22 19:39 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 19:46 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-22 23:48 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-03-23 10:05 +0000
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-03-23 21:34 +0000
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-23 00:08 +0000
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