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Re: Unable to migrate TM's encrypted case sensitive datas to a new drive with non-case sensitive encrypted HFS.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Unable to migrate TM's encrypted case sensitive datas to a new drive with non-case sensitive encrypted HFS.
Date 2017-02-27 10:27 -0700
Message-ID <D4D9AF7C.942C0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (10 earlier) <barmar-68284F.01281927022017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <ehj247Filj7U1@mid.individual.net> <o91kn5$2eo$1@dont-email.me> <D4D9A7A0.942AC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <o91mia$9q2$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2/27/17, 10:12 AM, in article o91mia$9q2$1@dont-email.me, "Alrescha"
<alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2017-02-27 16:53:36 +0000, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:
> 
>> Can you understand why most people in most case would NOT want to have
>> the risk of having different files with the exact same names in the
>> same folder (other than case)?
> 
> Oh of course.  I imagine that I could come up with several
> well-reasoned arguments as to why one might prefer a case-insensitive
> filesystem.  

I would be curious to hear these from you.

> Unfortunately, what has been presented here is
> echo-chamber dogma, straw-men, and red-herrings.

I think part of the challenge is that this is largely intuitive... for both
sides. I know in the past I have done research into what studies and experts
think and not found much. I will say in three decades of working with users
of all levels (from engineers to lawyers to K-12 to college to corporate to
octogenarian newbies and more) I have never run into an occasion where
someone has stated or demonstrated a need to have "myfile" and "MyFile" or
"MYFILE" in the same folder.

In my research I did find a fair amount on the similar question of case
sensitivity in variable names. I am NOT a programmer and have little direct
experience in this, but I do know a number of programmers and have discussed
it with them. They and the research back the idea that having two variables
with the same name (other than case) is generally a bad idea... and leads to
lots of problems. Even having two variables with names that, when spoken,
sound alike leads to issues (even when not being read out loud... when we
read things to ourselves we "hear" it in our heads).

I posted a quick summary of that research recently and, if you like, could
likely dig up the old links and the like (though some may very well be dead
by now).


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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

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                Re: Unable to migrate TM's encrypted case sensitive datas to a new drive with non-case sensitive encrypted HFS. Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:17 -0500
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