Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Snit Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:16:09 -0700 Lines: 90 Message-ID: References: <86549329f10d815d2e5922dee68cf94a@anemone.mooo.com> <210920151849448520%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151828504734%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151852561506%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151911207774%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020152005503949%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020152029590863%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020152114099863%nospam@nospam.invalid> <6uudnU6rVZP8YYzLnZ2dnUU7-WGdnZ2d@supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net mAokqS+4khLkPru0oKmkjQXYmJAH2z1AGD5iBVxovbT9wKNyLj Cancel-Lock: sha1:aPg56okK9AWZOja+c2kjAMgHpCs= User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Thread-Topic: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Thread-Index: AdD/meiHkcdUWED7q0mRNJLpsdsfJA== Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.freeware:244760 comp.sys.mac.system:81583 alt.hacker:8601 alt.privacy.anon-server:45763 comp.os.linux.advocacy:324526 On 10/5/15, 10:07 AM, in article VJWdneRFR7_LM4_LnZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@supernews.com, "nom de plume" wrote: > On 2015-10-05, Snit wrote: >> On 10/4/15, 9:42 PM, in article >> wNedne2KFPInYozLnZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@supernews.com, "nom de plume" >> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-10-05, Snit wrote: >>>> You have two sound cards and two motherboards. >>>> >>>> One combo of one sound card with one motherboard does not work. They each >>>> work with the other. >>>> >>>> Which product / company is at fault. >>> >>> So make a video, show which two motherboards you have, prove that they >>> are supported, and then show that they are not functioning as it should. >> >> Is it the motherboard or the sound card? They each are working in some >> circumstances. > > So prove to them it doesn't work in at least one way. That's all it > takes. And then they can say it DOES work in one way so it is not their fault. > I had a CD-ROM that didn't work. I just showed them it not working, someone > walked in the back got me another. I plugged it in, tested it right there, and > left as it worked just fine. > >> And, yes, I have seen situations like this. > > Yet, you don't know how to resolve it and you call yourself a computer > guy... Too much time playing with Macs I guess. When did I say I did not know how to resolve it? Heck, I noted how I was able to... and did so with a better understanding than your naïve stance that you will not get stuck between two companies. >>> Then show that proof to the seller and if they refuse to take it back >>> within the return policy guidelines, I'll then agree with you. >> >> Show the proof of what? If you bought the sound card from one seller and the >> motherboard from another which one is the faulty one? > > It's simple. Does the sound card work or not? Yes, in some cases. No in others. Heck, NO sound card will work by itself... they all depend on being attached to a motherboard! ... > I'm not looking to blame the motherboard or the sound card. Right: your troubleshooting skills failed you. Fine. It was not an easy problem to solve. I can provide others which ALSO have been challenging and tell you what I eventually found. :) > As I said all along, you have to be able to test both. > And even if you can't figure it out, you can just return it. You just said you did not know which... then say to return "it"... but you have no idea which one. This is my point. :) > Where I buy, if something doesn't work for me, I can just return it. How long > does it take you to realize a sound card doesn't work for you? I'd know in > about 45 minutes tops. I tend to stick with Creative as I have had no trouble > with them over the years. You also have shown no understanding of the issue then assume this means others are not competent. Oops. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: * Mint KDE working with folders: * Mint KDE creating files: * Mint KDE help: * Mint KDE general navigation: * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: * OS / Word Processor Comparison: