Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
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Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-09-28 13:47 -0700
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On 9/28/15, 12:04 PM, in article
YbmdnalDL-fSEpTLnZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

... 
>> Doing my normal fact checking: a little off but close enough (well for what
>> they CAN be):
>> 
>> <http://obamacarefacts.com/health-insurance/deductible/>
>>      -----
>>      Under ObamaCare Major Medical plans must meet certain cost sharing
>>      requirements and can¹t have deductibles higher than out-of-pocket
>>      maximum limits which are $6,600 for an individual and $13,200 for
>>      a family in 2015. Depending on your income and plan you choose
>>      deductibles can be lower, but not higher than those amounts. This
>>      applies only to in-network deductibles.
>>      -----
>> 
>> I would say that is high. Fair enough.
>> 
>>> So when you go to see your doctor for a problem, then you pay out of your
>>> pocket the cost till you reach your high level for the year.  Other words,
>>> what insurance?
>> 
>> I would rather see lower deductibles but have co-pays to stop people from
>> going for every sniffle.
> 
> Get Blue-Cross Blue-Shield.
> Mine is the Federal version and works pretty good.
> The only thing I don't have is dental.  But I take care of that.

Good point that there is no generally more choice in most markets and you
can go with the one that fits you best. Often none are great choices though.

>> I do think the very right wing Obamacare is a step forward, but think the
>> liberal plans would likely end up being better (single payer with co-pays).
>> 
>> Checking now, the original Heritage Foundation document does say:
>> 
>> <http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf>
>>      -----
>>      Under the proposal, the deductibles for Medicare would be
>>      increased, and part of the savings used to offset the extra costs
>>      for the less affluent elderly.
>>      -----
>> 
>> I do not see where it says anything else about deductibles specifically.
>> 
> I hear people complaining about it tho.
> That's why a lot of people are calling ObamaCare nothing more than a
> tax, until you get into a major car accident or get cancer.  Either way,
> you still have that big deductible staring you in the face.

It is a tax... I do not think that is in debate. You can get rebates on
taxes if you buy insurance yourself.

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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:50 -0600
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:41 -0400
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 08:52 -0700
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 16:01 +0000
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 09:10 -0700
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 12:32 -0400
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-25 17:01 +0000
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 10:19 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 10:03 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 14:17 -0400
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 11:52 -0700
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 17:22 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 18:10 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 19:20 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 22:34 -0400
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-26 12:42 -0400
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 15:00 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:38 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:04 -0600
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 14:40 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-28 15:11 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 09:53 -0400
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