Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
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Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-09-26 14:38 -0700
Message-ID	<D22C5E6B.5D370%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 9/26/15, 2:00 PM, in article
8-CdnRPCFvzumprLnZ2dnUU7-RednZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

> On 09/26/15 11:32, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/26/15, 9:42 AM, in article mu6hqb$e9k$3@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>> <.m@nsn.s>  wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>> I could provide you with ANY evidence whatsoever and you would claim
>>>>> that it's not credible. Arguing with mindless zombies like you isn't
>>>>> even worth it.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh?  You COULD provide me with evidence...  but you don't.
>>> 
>>> I already know how this works. I could provide you with University
>>> papers, newspaper articles, blogs and even statistics and you'd just
>>> claim that the source is not credible or that they're insane. It's not
>>> worth the time, especially since you won't bother to read any of it.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, people like you sicken me so *plonk*
>> 
>> Like with many things it depends on how you look at it. Yes, premiums have
>> gone up, on average, under Obamacare. But they were already going up... and
>> faster! So the rate of increase has slowed. *And* people who are at high
>> risk who could not get insurance before are now getting it... so the prices
>> before were being kept artificially low by excluding those who needed it
>> most... then these folks were covered in the ER when they got even worse!
>> 
>> Because of this health costs overall have gotten more under control.
>> 
>> Still, there are issues:
>> 
>> * With more people having insurance there are more people seeking care.
>> * Insurance companies are still not regulated enough and are screwing
>>    health professionals. While they make record profits many doctors
>>    are barely scraping by. That is insane.
>> 
>> Combine these two things and you end up with doctor shortages. We need to
>> make sure doctors are paid well for their services. This can be done by
>> either regulating the insurance industry more so they have to pay more and
>> cannot require doctors to have to see X number of patients a day or just
>> getting rid of the middle man and going to a single-payer system.
>> 
>> Really, what benefit do the insurance companies offer? They have an
>> incentive to DENY care! This is insane and makes no sense for a health
>> system. The goal of a health system should be to make sure people DO get the
>> care and education they need.
>> 
>> On the other side you do not want everyone running to the doctor for every
>> little scrape - thinking "why not, it is free!". For that, for those who can
>> afford it, at least, there should be a co-pay. Even for the poor their
>> should be a co-pay, though lower and perhaps waived in cases of chronic
>> conditions and the like.
>> 
>> So Obamacare, which really comes from the very right wing Heritage
>> Foundation, is overall a benefit but, like so many right wing plans, the end
>> result is that people get fewer benefits than they should and the
>> corporations get more profit. I am find with corporations getting profit -
>> after all without that you have no corporations at all!, but the government
>> should not be working to give them added benefits.
>> 
> The real issue here are the extremely high deductibles.
> My deductible is only $350 per year.  Under ObamaCare, the average
> deductible ranges from $6000 to $12000 per year.

Doing my normal fact checking: a little off but close enough (well for what
they CAN be): 

<http://obamacarefacts.com/health-insurance/deductible/>
    -----
    Under ObamaCare Major Medical plans must meet certain cost sharing
    requirements and can¹t have deductibles higher than out-of-pocket
    maximum limits which are $6,600 for an individual and $13,200 for
    a family in 2015. Depending on your income and plan you choose
    deductibles can be lower, but not higher than those amounts. This
    applies only to in-network deductibles.
    -----

I would say that is high. Fair enough.

> So when you go to see your doctor for a problem, then you pay out of your
> pocket the cost till you reach your high level for the year.  Other words,
> what insurance?

I would rather see lower deductibles but have co-pays to stop people from
going for every sniffle.

I do think the very right wing Obamacare is a step forward, but think the
liberal plans would likely end up being better (single payer with co-pays).

Checking now, the original Heritage Foundation document does say:

<http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf>
    -----
    Under the proposal, the deductibles for Medicare would be
    increased, and part of the savings used to offset the extra costs
    for the less affluent elderly.
    -----

I do not see where it says anything else about deductibles specifically.


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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 10:05 -0400
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 08:45 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 11:54 -0400
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 11:33 -0700
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 15:42 -0400
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:43 -0700
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
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            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 17:32 -0500
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 11:11 -0500
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:27 -0700
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 12:38 -0400
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:52 -0700
      Do you see this Michelle?  You caught another insane linux advocate. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:18 -0600
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 11:35 -0700
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          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 12:09 -0700
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              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 17:09 -0400
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-28 07:48 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:00 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 19:29 -0400
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:06 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 18:01 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 01:42 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:08 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:25 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:32 -0400
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:21 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-25 07:12 -0500
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:47 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:47 -0600
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 15:47 -0400
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            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:09 -0400
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        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-23 20:21 +0200
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:01 -0500
            Says the windows using only hypocrite, Turdv. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 14:28 -0600
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 14:28 -0600
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 14:17 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 11:52 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 17:22 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 18:10 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 19:20 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 22:34 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 01:03 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-26 12:42 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 10:32 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 15:00 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:38 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:04 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-28 13:47 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 15:11 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-28 14:46 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-27 10:45 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-27 10:02 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 17:55 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 08:55 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-28 11:12 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 14:40 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-28 15:11 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 09:53 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-29 10:48 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 13:00 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-29 15:19 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-29 17:53 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 18:10 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-29 18:57 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:24 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-29 19:54 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 09:42 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-30 15:23 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 18:09 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-09-26 11:05 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-27 10:48 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 17:58 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 15:17 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 15:04 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 03:02 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:07 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-27 11:10 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-09-27 08:20 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-27 11:43 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-09-27 09:10 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-27 12:18 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-09-27 12:36 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-27 19:17 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 20:28 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 20:41 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:13 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:09 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2015-09-27 16:08 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 11:55 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 17:19 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 14:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 12:31 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 09:57 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 14:08 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 11:43 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 18:07 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 17:15 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 12:13 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 11:37 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:37 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 20:50 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 15:08 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:44 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 03:07 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:17 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 12:07 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 11:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:40 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 20:46 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 15:10 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 03:12 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 13:18 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-26 00:37 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:45 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-26 07:57 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 17:23 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 18:13 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 19:08 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 22:33 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 01:06 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-26 09:11 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-26 15:05 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 15:23 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-28 07:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 15:18 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 15:26 -0600
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 14:27 -0600
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-23 21:04 +0000

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