Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.bresnan.com!news.bresnan.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 15:40:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:40:07 -0600 From: GreyCloud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110518 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store References: <86549329f10d815d2e5922dee68cf94a@anemone.mooo.com> <210920151816339085%nospam@nospam.invalid> <210920151849448520%nospam@nospam.invalid> <041020151828504734%nospam@nospam.invalid> <5tmdnY_rbLLTfY7LnZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <3YidnTCHGf22HojLnZ2dnUU7-RudnZ2d@bresnan.com> Lines: 47 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 184.167.49.124 X-Trace: sv3-KTpA+UwYcac2LJZlY4lHp6xuLj9o/P/Z0nyB6Xt8fiFKr25IQgTGkCRefnwi3I6WDQZbCf6rbI9Zekf!Sp+UxcX+Q9tGZrotwbV+0E6lHMLKoCAbuFp6wH/Y+32TFUwsa4ZGbshJx44uyD9MD5KJ0OEnEuGg!achAVaxGZuDGxA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@bresnan.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@bresnan.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4090 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:82379 comp.os.linux.advocacy:325425 On 10/06/15 14:06, Lloyd Parsons wrote: > On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 15:29:42 -0400, nom de plume wrote: > >> On 2015-10-06, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> OS X manages app dependencies automatically. Your commands are >>>> therefore useless. >>> >>> This is total bollocks >>> >>> OSX does the worst way of handling libraries. It packs them with the >>> program and other resources into "bundles" >>> Meaning: You can have the same libraries of same and / or different >>> version several times on your machine, in several different program >>> bundles. It is the OSX way to windows DLL hell >>> >>> And all this idiocy because apple was too incompetent to provide a >>> decent package management system, and the OSX users are too damn stupid >>> to follow simple instructions to install the needed dependencies >> >> Holy cow! An answer. Thank you kind sir. Someone answered the fucking >> question finally. So please correct me if I am wrong... The package >> simply contains all required libraries. But there is no command to list >> what the dependency libraries actually are then? >> >> So I can take an old RPM for example, and query it for dependencies and >> then do the same for the new one. >> >> On OSX, no such function? I'd essentially have to have the app on the >> system and maybe run a find command to filter out the dependencies or >> something of that nature? Is that a fair assessment? > > And while you are building this huge mountain out of a non-existent mole > hill, do you think that it is important? Apple doesn't have dependency > problems period. So who would actually want to see them and what the > hell would you do with the list if you had it? > Yep. That's why developers for OS X apps use bundles. And for windows, only a fool would name his own lib after one of the system libs. -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."