Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:15:18 -0600 Subject: Re: Unable to boot up an old 15" MBP (2008)'s Mac OS X v10.5.8/LEOPARD... Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.portable,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems References: <180220171111393467%nospam@nospam.invalid> From: Ant Organization: An Ant Farm Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:15:13 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <68mdnSAn_tErfTTFnZ2dnUU7-RPNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 50 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.50.15.139 X-Trace: sv3-qrXv9+V9qyNgnSBtVqFdxMyDhWTNn8Ul/R6haNQj66lwRsf252vk9qFEgbtJHuykwlXh92NiFnOFqaG!P4/FJBiECqlm6d5VkchNBw4+JPqtaPyZ6J58Um5rZA1R4DWkGIwlQIkYveact5geAXOw+aeSv9Wq!Wcpii6FexrImYNcwU1HDtRv3sUGpnA== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4126 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.portables:1113 comp.sys.mac.system:100666 On 2/18/2017 10:33 AM, Ant wrote: ... >> in any event, boot from an external hard drive that has a known good >> system. if *that* fails, it's probably hardware. if it works, then all >> you need to do is clean install. > > OK. I am going to have to see if I can install 10.5.x into an external > USB HDD with MBP's original DVDs. OK, back to work on this old 15" early 2008 MBP. There were issues I ran into with the external WDC 2 TB USB HDD with MBP's Mac OS X v10.5.2 DVDs: 1. It didn't want to see the drive, but eventually it worked. Weird. 2. It did not like the partition setups like my FAT32, so I had to redo it with its HFS Journal. 3. I couldn't reinstall into the old MBP's HDD with its installed and updated Mac OS X v10.5.8 because of the versions (can't install older over newer). So I would have to wipe it if I wanted to reinstall it. Don't have a newer Mac OS X version yet. I'll worry about it later. I am not touching the internal HDD yet. Currently, the installer is slowly verifying the DVDs are OK before installing the OS. Weird that I can't move my trackpad cursor. The video shows its status bar animating and percentage going up slowly though. I hope I don't run into more issues (always do :() and that this old MBP can boot from it too after it is done. To be continued... -- "... Hey. Could we do that again? I know we haven't met, but I don't want to be an ant. You know? I mean, it's like we go through life with our antennae bouncing off one another, continously on ant autopilot, with nothing really human required of us. 'Stop.' 'Go.' 'Walk here.' 'Drive there.' All action basically for survival. All communication simply to keep this ant colony buzzing along in an efficient, polite manner. 'Here's your change.' 'Paper or plastic?' 'Credit or debit?"' 'You want ketchup with that' I don't want a straw. I want real human moments. I want to see you. I want you to see me. I don't want to give that up. I don't want to be ant, you know?" "Yeah... yeah I know. I don't want to be an ant either. Thanks for kinda, like, josteling me there... I've been kinda on zombie autopilot lately. I don't feel like an ant in my head, but I guess I probably look like one..." --Waking Life movie Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Axe ANT from its address if e-mailing privately.