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Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
Subject Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything?
Date 2021-05-07 20:33 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <070520212033547025%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <s71o6c$4nv$3@dont-email.me> <060520211806506328%nospam@nospam.invalid> <s71pcr$fb3$1@dont-email.me> <060520211841190470%nospam@nospam.invalid> <s71s99$cd$1@dont-email.me>

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In article <s71s99$cd$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
<notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:

> >>>>>> I was searching "culture" (without quotation marks) for Office 365
> >>>>>> v16.48's Office filenames, but macOS Big Sur v11.3.1's Finder and
> >>>>>> Spotlight doesn't find them in a 13" 2012 Intel MacBook Pro's SSD. It
> >>>>>> doesn't show all of the files that I see when manually listing them in
> >>>>>> Finder's Documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> totally normal. spotlight is not great at finding stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, Spotlight is EXCELLENT at finding stuff.
> >>>
> >>> actually it's not.
> >>>
> >>> for example, it fails miserably with partial matches.
> >>
> >> Give an example...
> > 
> > consider a bunch of documents and/or folders of medical specialties,
> > such as toxicology, cardiology, physiology, anesthesiology, oncology,
> > dermatology, radiology, neurology, and ophthalmology.
> > 
> > you want to find all of them, so you search for common letters, in this
> > case, 'ology'.
> > 
> > since the query does not begin on a word boundary, the search results
> > will not be particularly helpful, as in none.
> 
> Sorry, but you're wrong.

the above example works exactly as i described. i tested it prior to
posting.

it's a very simple search that should not fail.

try the same set of words in bbedit. a search for 'ology' will find all
of them. if you search for 'col', it will find only toxicology and
oncology. both exactly as expected

> "Name ends with" works great.

additional steps that should not be needed.

> > on the other hand, if the search query started on a word boundary,
> > e.g., 'cardio', then it will find cardiology but not any of the others.
> > you'd have to do multiple searches for each one, hopefully not
> > forgetting any of them.
> > 
> >>> it doesn't search
> >>> everywhere.
> >>
> >> It does... ...if you ask it to.
> > 
> > not where it hasn't indexed.
> 
> It indexes everywhere.

no it doesn't.

> >>> the index can silently corrupt.
> >>
> >> Anything can.
> > 
> > true, except that spotlight relies on an index, and if it's corrupted,
> > it's not going to work particularly well.
> 
> And the gain is that searches are nearly instantaneous.

other alternatives are also nearly instantaneous, but more importantly,
they are more reliable.

> Tradeoffs.

reliability should never be traded off.

you also snipped the part where i mentioned about the index being
silently corrupted, which turned out to be the cause of ant's problem.
he's not the only one who has had that happen.

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macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? ant@zimage.comREMOVETHIS1ST (Ant) - 2021-05-06 15:49 -0500
  Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-05-06 17:46 -0400
    Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-05-06 14:47 -0700
      Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-05-06 18:06 -0400
        Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-05-06 15:08 -0700
          Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-05-06 18:41 -0400
            Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-05-06 15:57 -0700
              Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-05-07 20:33 -0400
                Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-05-07 19:47 -0700
            Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-05-07 18:41 +0000
              Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-05-07 20:33 -0400
                Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-05-08 02:33 +0000
                Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-05-07 19:48 -0700
                Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-05-08 09:53 +0000
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                Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-05-08 17:50 +0000
                Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-05-08 12:28 -0700
        Re: macOS Big Sur's search doesn't find everything? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-05-07 18:31 +0000
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