Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!kreme.dont-email.me!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lewis Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:51:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Miskatonic U Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <121120201421024996%nospam@nospam.invalid> <0VyrH.145047$Ml5.103301@fx24.iad> Reply-To: g.kreme@gmail.don-t-email-me.com Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:51:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: kreme.dont-email.me; posting-host="3adbca80f172146e5ddf22ea3072edc8"; logging-data="657"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ADxXbN9zDYtOl2ThG9jEz" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1qyelbuFV0Q826atRbnE0rCj7ho= X-Face: )^b5"R:T7U>9~:PEn3YkzMfW*[b1qKeU.fP9C8~8HpU9}lA&6`bH1z X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Mail-Copies-To: nobody Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:134891 comp.sys.mac.portables:1395 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:2165 In message Alan Browne wrote: > On 2020-11-13 19:54, Lewis wrote: >> In message Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2020-11-13 15:20, Lewis wrote: >>>> In message <0VyrH.145047$Ml5.103301@fx24.iad> Alan Browne wrote: >>>>> On 2020-11-12 14:21, nospam wrote: >>>>>> In article , JF Mezei >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Asll we know is "unified memory" which is meaningless marketing mumble >>>>>>> jumble. >>>>>> >>>>>> nonsense. >>>> >>>>> It is marketing speak to a degree. Per a Wikipedia article[1] the SOC >>>>> uses 3733 MHz LPDDR4X spec'd SDRAM as an included component within the >>>>> SOC. Still needs a memory manager though that may be more deeply >>>>> integrated in the CPU; likely has DMA of some kind, esp. for the GPU, >>>>> but other I/O as well. >>>> >>>>> [1] that source has no reference so I declare escape clause. But it's a >>>>> good bet if someone has seen that in System Info declared as such on the >>>>> many, many developer systems out there. >>>> >>>> What many many developer systems out there? >> >>> Thousands... >> >> Nonsense. > Really. Even my lowly Pascal compiler developer got one and very > quickly. It was underwhelming in the sense that the new compiler was > tested and ready in mere days. Again, the DTK Is NOT the M1 mac. At all. > Simplest path: spec an existing type that is in the fabs capability and > meets the spec. Are you channeling JF? -- > I miss the old days. I haven't killed anyone in years. > That's sad.