Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:39:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Encrypt existing Time Machine backups? Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.system References: <1mc4v7w.18agada1f1q1iwN%nmassello@yahoo.com> <6Kmdne4aRMfDM4bLnZ2dnUU7-d-dnZ2d@giganews.com> From: Alan Browne Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:39:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 38 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-8g6Ishus+xGyCSr4lp4NVsi1xUPSwFi/wSyzXHT0VR8ye+PVNOUyjENV4CGYbx47J/mhHwgwmV2ybdf!zwM+S+QijtSrITLzW/pPklhQcH3JEGXHABFgaoVDsE32b7rf4PjYWcQw20IclcRrmgTi4QICJQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3430 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.apps:32610 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:1075 comp.sys.mac.system:83341 On 2015-10-12 17:32, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-10-12, John Somerset wrote: >> On 10/12/15 9:54 AM, Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2015-10-12 08:58, Alan Browne wrote: >>>> On 2015-10-11 19:56, John Somerset wrote: >> >>>>> Oh, I thought that encrypting a disk, as with Filevault, meant the whole >>>>> disk had to be unencrypted to work. If memory can grab only what it >>>>> needs, that sounds much faster. >>> >>> Doh. I really misread what you wrote when I replied with the stuff below. >>> >>> But yes, the drive remains encrypted and the data from the FileVaulted >>> drive is decrypted in memory on your Mac as needed, file by file (or >>> probably block by block) >>> >> Am I correct that if I encrypted a folder, I couldn't get at any file >> without decrypting the whole folder? > > It's my understanding that with FileVault 2 full disk encryption, it is > not folders and files, but individual *blocks* of the volume. FileVault > encrypted disks are CoreStorage logical volume groups that work with the > LVM built into OS X. Encryption and decryption work at the logical > volume level rather than the file system level. I took that question to be for a given folder encrypted into a DMG. Otherwise agree with what you wrote. > >> Correct or not, that was my concept of it. That's why I assumed >> Filevault needed to decrypt a disk to get access to any of it. It >> sounded time-consuming, with disaster always lurking. > > FileVault 2 in particular is extremely simple, reliable, and safe, and > is used by millions of Apple customers daily.