Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:22:31 +0100 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net fpQLkk2JIr0o17Vtr5I2sQtLKj+pjFS3xyNQmWxXi0qrKNpgNO Cancel-Lock: sha1:cSl0QspiP/xsRRGd/b2EsSWAe5s= sha256:VZkAReaRTQNM/L6ua3ALMOjL4M3zV6MkYxIrVVAUdow= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-CA, es-ANY In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:126656 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:183325 comp.sys.mac.apps:46893 On 2023-12-10 10:38, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 09.12.23 22:21, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2023-12-09 21:05, Wally J wrote: >>> "Carlos E. R." wrote >>> >>>>> Not at all.  Apple's system is not a walled garden.  More like an >>>>> exclusive country club where you get more but can also go anywhere off >>>>> of the club you want. >>>> >>>> The point is that *here* there are only 21% of iPhones, so those users >>>> have to get out of their walled garden to talk with the people, 80% of >>>> which are on Android. So, they don't use iMessages. >>> >>> Carlos brings up the valid points that most of the world is on Android, and >>> most of the world seems to use WhatsApp (which is the same as iMessage >>> anyway, in terms of needing to connect to a middleman mothership server). >>> >>> But even those on Android in the US have no problem communicating with >>> iPhone users; it's always mainly the iPhone users who complain about it. >> >> That is not so. >> >> Android users have to communicate with iPhone users using third party >> tools, like WhatsApp, thats not popular in the USA, or ancient protocols >> like SMS, which lack features. Or use MMS, which in many countries it is >> expensive, or is being phased out. >> >> So yes, we do have problems and we do complain. > > I think this is a fair statement. iPhone users do not complain. Yes, they do, when they want to communicate with Android users and can not send photos or multimedia, unless they ditch iMessages and switch to WhatsApp. It is the same issue in both directions. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R.