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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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On 2015-09-27, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <d6nuruFcfoiU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-09-26, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>> In article <d6menvFt8lU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Personally, I avoid package managers and just install from source. I
>>>> dislike the overhead of a package manager, and most open source software
>>>> I want to run is relatively easily compiled in OS X (usually just a
>>>> simple: ./configure, make, sudo make install).
>>>
>>> I gave up "doing it by hand" when I hit packages that dependencies of
>>> over 100 packages.  That's why I switched to a package manager.
>
>> I find those are typically GUI application packages, which I don't
>> desire or need.
>
> ImageMagick, MySQL, any language, postfix, SpamAssassin, etc all require
> a pissload of dependencies. Trying to compile any of those manually is a
> major pain in the ass.

Not in every case, no. You can compile MySQL on recent versions of OS X
with these commands without installing anything else, for instance:

export PATH="/usr/local/mysql/bin:$PATH"

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql \
--with-unix-socket-path=/var/mysql/mysql.sock \
--with-extra-charsets=complex \
--enable-thread-safe-client \
--enable-local-infile \
--enable-shared \
--with-plugins=innobase
make
sudo make install

Done deal.

>> I've compiled Apache / PHP / etc on various versions of OS X though the
>> years, all by hand.
>
> PHP alone requires:
> autoconf
> m4
> libsigsegv
> indexinfo
> help2man
> p5-Locale-gettext
> gettext-tools
> expat2
> gettext-runtime
> libiconv
> perl5.20
> gmake-lite
> gmake
> autoconf-wrapper
> pcre
> libxml2
> pkgconf
>
> My apache install requires:
>
> pkg, openssl, perl5.20, autoconf, m4, libsigsegv, indexinfo, help2man,
> p5-Locale-gettext, gettext-tools, expat2, gettext-runtime, libiconv,
> gmake-lite, gmake, autoconf-wrapper, automake, automake-wrapper,
> libtool, apr1, gdbm, mysql55-client, cmake, py-sphinx, py-Jinja2,
> py-setuptools27, python27, pkgconf, libffi, py-MarkupSafe, py-babel,
> py-pytz, py-docutils, py-six, py-pygments, py-sphinx_rtd_theme,
> py-alabaster, py-snowballstemmer, py-pystemmer, curl, nghttp2, libev,
> libevent2, spdylay, clang34, llvm34, libexecinfo, libxml2, gcc,
> binutils, gmp, mpfr, bison, mpc, jansson, libidn, openldap24-client,
> ca_root_nss, jsoncpp, scons, python2, libarchive, lzo2, cmake-modules,
> db5, and pcre
>
> That's a LOT of aggravation.

Nah, all of those aren't required. You're exaggerating.

Do as you wish, though. I haven't ever stated I think everyone should do
what I do. I simply state my preference. You do get that distinction,
right?

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