Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Snit Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 16:04:38 -0700 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <9d2dnRPZhcVVxIjLnZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@earthlink.com> <561565ba$0$49161$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net NJEUXJMtHO3BmXOC7cJ/pwx2RMZIuGXIuRk8MjQuX1NeBZYvMP Cancel-Lock: sha1:PLc2H+VEKrBYvzIEoYYhEE4Tc1Y= User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Thread-Topic: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Thread-Index: AdEBVIpS6mvKhngqIkGUPo3bHUdCCg== Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.apps:32469 comp.sys.mac.system:82416 On 10/7/15, 1:18 PM, in article barmar-F23F25.16183807102015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu, "Barry Margolin" wrote: > In article , > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2015-10-07, Snit wrote: >>> On 10/7/15, 12:40 PM, in article d7laq9FogllU10@mid.individual.net, "Jolly >>> Roger" wrote: >>>> To be fair, the repeat speed setting does make sense with special >>>> characters enabled - it controls how long you have to press the key to >>>> see the special characters menu. >>> >>> Right... but then it is labeled incorrectly and the repeat rate makes no >>> sense. >> >> That's why the setting is a hidden preference. Seems like we are talking >> in circles. It's an advanced preference that Apple decided not to expose >> to GUI users. > > He's talking about the labeling in the non-hidden Keyboard Preferences. > The language there still assumes that auto-repeat exists. > > But since some applications still implement auto-repeat rather than > showing special characters, the preference is still appropriate for them. Makes sense but I think the labeling should be more clear and the overall setting for turning the "special characters" on or off should also not be hidden. Overall I think Apple hide too many settings. They could have "Advanced" buttons which most would ignore. Also they tie settings together in ways I do not like. I want to have lots of recent files remembered, fewer applications, and even fewer servers. OS X ties these all to one setting. And if you want to HIDE your recently used files from the Dock menu there is no easy way. Do not get me wrong: I am happy with my Mac and have had a number of them and my next computer is almost sure to be a Mac. Apple offers me the best quality for the lowest price and customer server second to none. But does not mean there are things about their products that irk me. :) -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: * Mint KDE working with folders: * Mint KDE creating files: * Mint KDE help: * Mint KDE general navigation: * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: * OS / Word Processor Comparison: