Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Goldberg Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: PDF Password Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:22:41 -0600 Lines: 44 Message-ID: <8tpuriFbk3U1@mid.individual.net> References: <2011030811552072250-xxx@yyyzzz> <8tokpqFafhU1@mid.individual.net> Reply-To: jeffrey+news@goldmark.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 7UfmwJhe7Gl5b8EYGrpREQVB6iYwSarubRUjJCRGJF4uv+85ck Cancel-Lock: sha1:t7OCroDHKzCqdFL9g0utVk9hLHA= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Mnenhy/0.8.2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 In-Reply-To: Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.sys.mac.apps:550 On 11-03-09 7:07 AM, Michael Vilain wrote: > In article<8tokpqFafhU1@mid.individual.net>, > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >>> ...and you expect anyone from the middle to the right on the political >>> spectrum to help you out here, given your naive sig? >> Wow. Are you telling me that there are people who would withhold >> technical advice because they disagree with someone's politics? > You've obviously never heard of the Westboro Community Church. They > picket soldiers funerals, funerals of gay teen suicide victims, > politicians, liberal schools with gay/straight alliances. Anonymous > hacked their web site. Would I help fix it? Nope. As with anything there are limits, but Jason was talking about positions that fall well within the "normal" political spectrum. I would certainly love to give Westboro Baptist "advice", but since they faked the Anonymous announcement to just get publicity and play victim I suspect they are happy with the results. One reason that political discussion "works" here better than in political groups is that we are already a community based on something other than political or religious views. So I enjoy the occasional political statement here from people like Davoud and Kurt[1] because in other contexts they would never be talking politics in the same place. But this works because people like Davoud and Kurt have already earned a substantial degree of respect that has nothing to do with their political views. Cheers, -j [1]: Note I am not saying that Davoud and Kurt Ulman are equally distant from the "norm". They are just two names that popped into my head for an examples. -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read HTML or poorly quoting posts Reply-To address is valid