Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Intel Guy Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel Subject: Re: The end of the road for the DIY PC? Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:14:51 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 37 Message-ID: <50B19B3B.CA03C100@Guy.com> References: <50b14e37$1@news.bnb-lp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: q4bRJGIC6Li1H7roUZhwdA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:671 comp.sys.intel:215 Yousuf Khan wrote: > Intel has announced that they will stop making replaceable CPU's > after Haswell. From now on, all CPU's are supposed to be in BGA > packaging, My first PC (besides a couple pocket computers) was a real IBM PC circa 1983. I upgraded that as much as I could over the 3 years (but never had a hard drive) and my next PC in 1987 was a 24 mhz Harris-80286-based motherboard made (IIRC) by Western Digital - with integrated MFM (or was it RLL?) winchester controller. I never did own any 386-based boards - I moved directly to various 486 boards, and skipped the Pentium-1 and instead owned various P2 and P3 boards (slocket, 370, etc). Was never into AMD. Since I use Windows 98se (fortified with KernelEx) for my primary systems - based on 2.x ghz socket-478 Pentium and Celeron CPU's. I have several Asrock/Via-based socket 775 boards waiting to be used as my next-gen systems (still plan on running win-98 on them). I build the PC's at $dayjob and our developers have Gigabyte socket-775 boards with 4-core CPU's, nvidia 7k or 8k video cards with dual display, and don't really need anything more. They run Windoze 7 (some still run XP) and we probably will never migrate those to Windoze 8 or beyond (those guys will retire before windoze 7 becomes obsolete). Heck, our NNTP and HTTP servers still run on NT4 servers running on P2-800 Gigabyte Intel 440BX motherboards - 24/7/365 for more than 10 years now. For the general-purpose SOHO desktop, the socket 478 was a real work horse for years, and the socket-775 didn't really seem to hang around for long - but I seriously doubt that the average person (soho, or institutional / corporate) needs more CPU (not counting portable use, or gamers). So basically I've been out of touch with motherboards since maybe Q3-2007, but I seriously doubt I'm missing anything for the past 5 years except that the boards are getting more colorful and have sick-looking heat sinks.