Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!news.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!panix!not-for-mail From: Rich Alderson Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.pdp-11 Subject: Re: Y3K for PDP-11 Operating Systems Date: 25 May 2011 20:58:36 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 30 Sender: alderson+news@panix5.panix.com Message-ID: References: <4d99c3b6$0$23756$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4dc1e27c.40366475@news.tpgi.com.au> <93vbcaF3luU1@mid.individual.net> <940bm5Fcc3U1@mid.individual.net> <941ob1Fre1U1@mid.individual.net> <9425gcFhnpU1@mid.individual.net> <942hghFhukU1@mid.individual.net> <944mhrF19qU1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix5.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1306371519 21843 166.84.1.5 (26 May 2011 00:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 00:58:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 22.3 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.sys.dec:496 billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: > OK, I guess that is another point of view thing. While i agree that disks > tend to be blocked they do deliver the raw data when asked and the actual > sectoring never makes it off the disk. As for tape and ethernet, even > the blocking data is just other byte values. Now, card, there is the > anomaly. But I guess in the long run regardless of what the card looked > like the date was delivered as single characters. (I really wish I > could get a card reader for my collection!!) I'd just like to point out that the sectors ("blocks") on a TOPS-20 file system are 256 18-bit+parity halfwords long, with 4 sectors per page. Tops-10 works in blocks instead. Those amounts of data are what show up in buffers made up of 36-bit words. So-called "byte" streams are parochial. :-) > Well, as far as I, and I would imagine most people today, are concerned > if it isn't WYSIWYG it isn't a "word processor" it is a document processor. > (I still have a professor here, and not some old guy, one of our youngest, > who still does all of his academic stuff in LaTex!) I write professional documentation in LaTeX. (Then again, I'm probably an old guy, so it doesn't count.) I can move my documentation sources from Windows (mandated by the IT department) to Mac OS X (at home) to any Linux or BSD version (JBIFLI), and get the same results on any of them. -- Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com the russet leaves of an autumn oak/inspire once again the failed poet/ to take up his pen/and essay to place his meagre words upon the page...