Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: billig999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,alt.sys.pdp11,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.pdp-11 Subject: Re: Y3K for PDP-11 Operating Systems Date: 4 May 2011 00:07:05 GMT Organization: Computing Sciences Dept., University of Scranton Lines: 50 Sender: bill@server2.cs.uofs.edu Message-ID: <92bjl8F19sU1@mid.individual.net> References: <4d99c3b6$0$23756$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4dc032d4$0$313$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <7d287cc3-4605-49a0-826e-fb92fc14e98d@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net tiuVBGedV9uHWxucgFBhdwCf+O/0KZ0LMBaDg9f8WUuHelETyM Cancel-Lock: sha1:vo/OQtAP3QyLYbDMUGC2uItebdw= X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 X-Face: #S"T9jP[OH$fbA-]+!@r#:cHoa=2+R{,NY(E9Mw0/G2D_((6`6R8@JjodwakR~(J?mCY+]yn//;$5;=/Gc'22VrB Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.os.vms:2664 comp.sys.dec:379 In article <7d287cc3-4605-49a0-826e-fb92fc14e98d@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, onedbguru writes: > On May 3, 2:39 pm, Henry Crun wrote: >> On 03/05/11 20:51, Bob Koehler wrote: >> >> >   >Bob Koehler wrote: >> >> >>> In article, jjh  writes: >> >> >>> To make sure I understand, y3K =3D 3000, it is 2011 now...um that is 989 >> >>> years from now...or roughly  12.5 lifetimes....I seriously don't think >> >>> that anyone in the year 3000 will want to know anything about DEC hw >> >>> or sw. >> >> >> You obviously have not read the historical documents. >> >> > I am curious, I have not read the historical documents. >> > Can you please post a link? >> >> > As for Y3K for RT-11, since the date is presently managed >> > up to 2099 as of V05.07 of RT-11, dates starting in 2100 >> > become the next problem.  And since adding support only >> > for an additional 128 years seems like a complete waste of >> > time, then 3000 CE was chosen as the next minimum step. >> > In practice, at least an additional 4000 years would probably >> > be added, more than enough to handle dates until the rules >> > for the CE (Commercial Events, Common Era, Christian Era >> > or Gregorian - all are identical and have a 400 year cycle) >> > Calendar requires a rule change to handle years which are >> > less than the current 365.2418 days. >> >> > So Y3K is really just Y2.1K if that makes a difference. >> >> IIRC there was an article by someone from DEC who promised that RSTS would be >> patched to accept five-digit years before the year 9999. However I doubt that >> current versions would be supported until then... >> > question... who cares??? I can almost guarantee that none of us will > be here in 2099... and by that time you might be using neural-net > technology that will make the PDP look like a TRS80. Hey, just what xfdo you think was wrong with the TRS80? bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include