Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jerry Penner Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.programmer Subject: Re: Interview with Kyan Pascal creator Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 12:58:50 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <4a8cbe00-b4a5-4506-849a-d5d1ee84291fn@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4df296fb062e645f478377d20d934cca"; logging-data="1078582"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19FOKP8WJCs3bQL/B3+H6yZ" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rE3Qx4V1j9kvmKxM06cfWScEmZA= sha1:gyyxCrZwirfWxBk5WWutPcTuHIY= Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.apple2.programmer:6051 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) writes: > In article <4a8cbe00-b4a5-4506-849a-d5d1ee84291fn@googlegroups.com>, > A2CPM wrote: >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-LyfNBjfE&t=1423s > > It was an interesting interview, but only from a "founder's" perspective. > In summary: they made enough money to pay the employees and for operations, > but the founders didn't make much. Kyan was apparently bought out by > Apple, but I'm not sure what Apple did with this purchase. > > Googling shows a Kyan product list, which included a "Code Optimizer > Toolkit" which includes the source code for the Runtime Library. I would > be interested in this, but it seems there is no archive of this anywhere. Not sure if you already know about this... This ZIP file, http://www.appleoldies.ca/kix/KYANDSK.ZIP, contains a disk image named CODEOPT.DSK that contains: /OPTIMIZER LIB BIN $9000 25 11873 OP BIN $0800 11 4634 1987-Jan-16 20:00 OPLIB.MAIN1.I TXT $0002 63 31607 1986-Jul-28 00:00 OPLIB.MAIN2.I TXT $0002 59 29392 OPLIB.PASCAL.I TXT $0002 46 22685 1986-Aug-23 00:00 SIEVE.P TXT $0002 1 507 1986-Aug-13 00:00 SIEVE.PC BIN $0800 3 978 1986-Aug-13 00:00 SIEVE.OP BIN $0800 8 3108 1986-Aug-13 00:00 Free space: 206 blocks The .I files are assembler source, fwiw. -- -- Jerry jerry+a2 at jpen.ca