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Re: telnetd for GNO?

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On 04/01/2016 1:57 PM, D Finnigan wrote:
> I realize that I'm not hitting the real point of your query! :-0
> But I was thinking about the "tangle" you mentioned, and how it might be
> better solved now with the Uthernet II. And how this new approach may allow
> many more interesting TCP/IP applications to be written for any operating
> environment on the IIgs, whether in GNO or for the traditional desktop.

Any application that is written for the IIgs that can access the IIgs 
toolbox can use Marinetti.  Whether it is a desktop program, a 16 bit 
text based program, a program for the Orca shell, a program that runs 
under GNO/ME or any other environment.  At present, there is no library 
to use the Uthernet II's TCP/IP stack so it would have to be done for 
each individual program until someone creates a library.  But if someone 
does create a library it would be best implemented the way Marinetti has 
done it so that it can be used by any application using the IIgs toolbox.

Writing a new library to directly access the Uthernet II's TCP/IP stack 
doesn't make much sense as Marinetti is already written and available 
for use and is already being used by dozens of programs.  It is possible 
that Marinetti could be pared down substantially and rewritten to use 
the Uthernet II's stack but then you can't use Marinetti with Uthernet 
I, LANceGS and Apple Ethernet cards or with a serial PPP or SLIP connection.

I haven't looked into it but I have heard that there are some 
limitations to the Uthernet II's TCP/IP stack.  I believe someone 
mentioned it only supported 4 open sockets at a time.  These limitations 
might not be so bad with an 8 bit Apple II but could cause problems with 
the 16 bit IIgs.

I do want to get back to programming on my IIgs and when I do, my 
network applications will continue to use Marinetti as it is already 
there, already installed on a lot of people's machines, doesn't have any 
limitations that I can think of being a problem and my applications will 
work with whatever hardware there is a link layer for.

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telnetd for GNO? stlhood <stlhood@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 14:00 -0800
  Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-04 16:27 +0000
    Re: telnetd for GNO? stlhood <stlhood@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 10:50 -0800
      Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-04 18:57 +0000
        Re: telnetd for GNO? Jeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca> - 2016-01-04 18:56 -0500
          Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-05 20:44 +0000
            Re: telnetd for GNO? andrew.roughan@writeme.com - 2016-01-06 03:21 -0800
              Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-07 22:51 +0000
            Re: telnetd for GNO? Kelvin Sherlock <email@domain.com> - 2016-01-06 12:45 -0500
            Re: telnetd for GNO? Jeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca> - 2016-01-06 17:12 -0500
              Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-07 23:05 +0000
                Re: telnetd for GNO? "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2016-01-07 21:43 -0500
                Re: telnetd for GNO? andrew.roughan@writeme.com - 2016-01-09 00:58 -0800
                Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-09 21:30 +0000
  Re: telnetd for GNO? Stephen Heumann <stephen.heumann@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 18:45 -0600
    Re: telnetd for GNO? stlhood <stlhood@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 20:40 -0800
      Re: telnetd for GNO? Stephen Heumann <stephen.heumann@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 12:30 -0600
        Re: telnetd for GNO? stlhood <stlhood@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 21:28 -0800
          Re: telnetd for GNO? Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:03 -0500
            Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-11 18:41 +0000
              Re: telnetd for GNO? Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:05 -0500
                Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-12 18:56 +0000
    Re: telnetd for GNO? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-01-05 20:56 +0000
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