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Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection

From Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.apollo
Subject Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection
Date 2012-03-20 12:15 -0700
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On Monday, March 19, 2012 5:50:09 PM UTC-7, Jim Rees wrote:
> On Mar 19, 5:42 pm, Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, March 19, 2012 1:08:26 PM UTC-7, supervinx wrote:
> > Booting flexibily was not exactly Apollo's strength, like networking was...I wish the engineers at Apollo had a bit more forsight to add more *new installation* booting options besides Tape and floppy.
> 
> Ah, but we did! The original ether boot code was in the main prom, and
> we split it out to the individual devices. That's why you need to add
> a boot rom to a 3c505 to get it to boot. Obviously we couldn't code up
> a cd boot rom because the device didn't exist yet. If you want to
> write one, I think the documentation is available.

Yeah I guess its kinda hard to design for a technology that doesnt exit yet! You must be thinking way back to the DNX00 days. Didnt CDs exist when the DN4000s came out? Anyway, ethernet was a great addition, but you still cant do a fresh "first node" install from media other than tape or floppy. You have to assume the other machine has enough storage to house a full AA. And what if you dont have another machine? Youre SOL.. And with *good* tapes costing $30 a pop and becoming more and more rare, the Apollo will die pretty soon unless someone (smart, not me) come up with another method (CD, TTFTP, etc). Also, it seems the 3C505 is another rare beast. And then the ESDI disk shortage...*sigh*...thats another story...:) 
/rant

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Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-16 18:46 -0700
  Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-17 08:28 +0000
    Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-18 18:07 +0100
      Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-18 18:00 +0000
        Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-18 13:03 -0700
          Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-18 22:12 +0100
            Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-19 10:13 -0700
              Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-19 19:32 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-19 13:03 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-19 20:08 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-19 14:42 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-19 23:28 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-19 17:42 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-20 07:56 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-20 06:11 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-20 20:48 +0100
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-20 17:02 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-21 07:23 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-21 20:51 +0100
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-21 15:04 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-20 10:24 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-19 17:50 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-20 12:15 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-20 21:02 +0100
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-22 19:08 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-23 07:17 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-23 05:41 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-24 22:38 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-24 18:13 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-25 10:14 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-25 06:53 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-23 21:32 +0100
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-23 21:05 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-23 15:01 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-24 08:11 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-24 13:18 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-24 16:54 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Kurt Nowak <kurt.m.nowak@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:44 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection james@forluna.co.uk - 2012-03-27 13:42 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-27 21:08 +0000
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Jim Rees <jim.rees@rees.org> - 2012-03-28 07:10 -0700
                Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection Lothar Paltins <lptmp01@arcor.de> - 2012-03-24 20:34 +0100
          Re: Booting an Apollo with the external scsi connection supervinx <nessuno@libero.it> - 2012-03-18 23:40 +0000

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