X-Received: by 10.182.73.225 with SMTP id o1mr62672421obv.28.1416139539843; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:05:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.41.11 with SMTP id y11mr4589qgy.16.1416139539691; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:05:39 -0800 (PST) Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!h15no1205438igd.0!news-out.google.com!m4ni198qag.1!nntp.google.com!w8no198654qac.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:05:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=95.146.247.42; posting-account=L5To_QoAAAAmhJeWGmZdBSTOpT15KH3F NNTP-Posting-Host: 95.146.247.42 References: <19990702181837.03833.00008366@ng-ce1.aol.com> <7lkp5b$mr5$1@news.kabelfoon.nl> <7m07rf$dgv$1@nn-os004.ocn.ad.jp> <3012.857T50T13563732drysdale@netstorm.net> <7m1ge6$16k$1@news.hccnet.nl> <7m8hll$jtu$1@nn-os004.ocn.ad.jp> <3054.860T1450T13435300drysdale@netstorm.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Time to ROCK the boat.. It's almost 2000 ....------> R.I.P Micro$oft From: Gregory Allen Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:05:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.amiga.hardware:50 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:53:37 AM UTC, yu.les...@gmail.com wrote: > =D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=B5, 11 = =D0=B8=D1=8E=D0=BB=D1=8F 1999=C2=A0=D0=B3., 13:00:00 UTC+6 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0= =BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C Scott Drysdale = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > On 11-Jul-99 03:35:06, Jam@Null.net wrote: > > >WHiZZ-KiD wrote in message > > >news:7m1ge6$16k$1@news.hccnet.nl... > >=20 > > >Right. and AFAIR, QDOS was a CP/M base. The MODs were by todays law, > > >illeagle and only barely leagle then, hence: "Rip-Off" > >=20 > > where do you get information that it was a cp/m ripoff? as i said > > before, there were several cp/m compatible 8080/z80/8086 oses, some > > of them were even multi-user. infosoft's I/OS is an example. > >=20 > > >SCOTT: > >=20 > > >>the pentium and friends are actually pretty respectable as far as > > >>performance goes. > >=20 > > i should have added "given the antique ISA they have to support." > >=20 > > >Not really. At least not from a design perspective! Xenon is just a= bout > > >at the end of its gen. cycle. > >=20 > > you think the evil I won't continue to come out with faster and > > faster x86 processors? > >=20 > > >>I'm less than impressed with the PowerPC. > >=20 > > >G3 design spec is real pretty and the technology is at the beginning o= f it's > > >gen. cycle. transistor for transistor G3 in it current state is nearl= y two > > >times faster than Intel with a MUCH cleaner architecture! > >=20 > > i agree that it's a better architecture than the x86 family (which > > pretty much is a big, fast Z80). but it's just plain WEIRD. i mean, > > the bits are numbered backwards! :) and it's not cheap, even in > > embedded versions (moto's 860 family, for example). > >=20 > > >>the MIPS stuff is much more sane. > >=20 > > >I heard all further development on MIPS has been perm. discontinued! > >=20 > > that's interesting. i was in a meeting with sales reps for IDT (one of > > several companies producing new MIPS cores) and they have extended plan= s > > for faster and faster MIPS implementations. we're using two MIPS > > processors in the current project at work. 120MHz processor (one > > instruction per clock for every instruction, assuming things are in > > cache, except multiply), two 8K caches, PCI controller, SDRAM > > controller, two UARTs, 4 DMA channels for $22. that's twenty-two > > dollars. > >=20 > > at least one of the super game machines (nintendo 64, i think) is a > > MIPS machine. > >=20 > > >>- though I'm told the alpha people borrowed heavily from the MIPS > > >>architecture. > >=20 > > >I don't think this is correct but it is totally unimportant! > >=20 > > it's in a MIPS book i read recently. > >=20 > > >>incorrect. Microsoft's BASIC was one of the first (I'm tempted to > > >>say THE first) basic interpreters for 8080 S100 machines. > >=20 > > >Microsoft basic WAS a rip-&-port of a BASIC from another platform and = was in > > >no way original (language wise) just re-written! I may even still hav= e the > > >same code that MS started out with. > >=20 > > >I could actually be wrong on this last point but I was very into the i= ndustry > > >from the mid 70s on, and this is my recollection. > >=20 > > what other platform? > >=20 > > find that source code you're talking about. (i think) i still have a f= ew > > printed fragments of basic-80 source that i was using as a reference fo= r > > my modifications for the microoffice roadrunner port. i could compare = and > > contrast for you. > >=20 > > -- > > // scott drysdale //=20 > > // amigas and panheads and guns, oh my! >=20 > Scott, Do you have Microoffice Roadrunner laptop computer? I think you may be around 15 years too late