Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Steve Fryatt Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.programmer Subject: Re: Learning ARM machine code Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2025 12:18:38 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <5c0c6984e5bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> <5c294aefcbbavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> <1026m5i$jcpt$4@solani.org> <5c2adc4465bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> <5c2cea6fccbavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> <5c75805cc6bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> <5c7c29dce9bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> <5c870ac95abavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="210e044ecafdbeb0cc79438c6e00d455"; logging-data="3617754"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+SY8bhVrQidNDIr3xaz9gHqidcyJXKgqs=" User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.73.6.4252 (Qt/5.15.13) (Linux-x86_64) Cancel-Lock: sha1:h5wyYI/yDXoXXNA2WFjuXEELPYE= Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.acorn.programmer:6567 On 6 Dec, Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote in message <5c870ac95abavariasound@chiemgau-net.de>: > It shouldn't be added automatically by the Assembler because this is a bit > of spoon-feeding (the German word here would be 'Bevormundung', I don't > know the correct English expression). You are hide here something from the > programmer. That's not a good thing? As a programmer, the building of code is a repetitive, boring task that I want as automated as possible. Knowing what is happening is useful, agreed, but doing it by hand every time is definitely not useful! > This is not a good way to learn! He should be able to know what he's > doing! That's a different thing, though. And just because a 1:1 relationship is useful for learning, it doesn't follow that it's the way that development tools should do things. > Unix, ugh! We may have to agree to differ! -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/