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The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!

Started byChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net>
First post2012-03-01 17:52 +0000
Last post2012-03-08 13:35 +0000
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  The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> - 2012-03-01 17:52 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 17:57 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2012-03-01 18:10 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-01 18:17 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-01 22:20 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+15404@Torrens.org.uk> - 2012-03-05 12:42 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 16:35 +0100
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-05 18:36 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 19:14 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-03-06 09:26 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 10:45 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 15:19 +0000
                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 19:22 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 20:45 +0100
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-03-07 15:44 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 17:13 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! church <church@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 19:35 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-07 09:11 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 10:18 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 09:48 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 11:26 +0000
                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-09 12:23 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 13:46 +0000
                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 15:37 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 16:11 +0000
                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-09 18:01 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 18:51 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 14:40 +0000
                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-09 17:28 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 19:13 +0000
                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 20:15 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 19:28 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 16:38 +0000
                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 09:05 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 09:11 +0000
                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-10 10:46 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:23 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:29 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 16:13 +0000
                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-03-11 17:28 +0000
                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-11 18:25 +0000
                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-03-11 23:25 +0000
                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-11 20:13 +0000
                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-12 20:55 +0000
                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-03-12 22:35 +0000
                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 12:57 +0000
                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-13 10:21 +0000
                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 13:19 +0000
                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-14 18:13 +0000
                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 20:10 +0000
                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-15 21:30 +0000
                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 17:18 +0000
                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-15 08:42 +0000
                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-15 11:03 +0000
                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-18 10:04 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 09:48 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-10 10:54 +0000
                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 11:52 +0000
                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Graham Pickles <graham@durain.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 12:26 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:03 +0000
                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Graham Pickles <graham@durain.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:26 +0000
                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:40 +0000
                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-10 16:23 +0000
                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-10 16:57 +0000
                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-10 17:48 +0000
                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-10 21:19 +0000
                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 22:44 +0000
                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 04:09 +0100
                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 06:52 +0000
                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 08:38 +0000
                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-11 10:35 +0000
                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-03-11 11:04 +0000
                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 18:37 +0000
                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-11 10:31 +0000
                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 18:34 +0000
                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-11 20:13 +0000
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 21:18 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 22:31 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 08:23 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-12 15:46 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 17:15 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 07:12 +0000
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 05:15 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 08:26 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 09:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-14 11:48 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-17 20:54 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-17 21:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-03-17 22:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 00:45 +0100
                                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-03-18 09:25 +0000
                                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 15:36 +0000
                                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 16:52 +0100
                                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 16:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! (OT) "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 17:56 +0100
                                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 20:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! (OT) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-18 21:05 +0000
                                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! (OT) Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-18 22:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-19 11:07 +0000
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-19 14:39 +0100
                                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-20 13:32 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 14:56 +0100
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 05:09 +0100
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-20 11:34 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ollie Clark <usenet@ollieclark.com> - 2012-03-29 10:38 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-29 11:52 +0100
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-29 15:29 +0100
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-29 21:50 +0200
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-30 08:53 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-30 17:57 +0200
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-31 22:17 +0100
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-31 23:06 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-31 23:24 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-03-31 23:43 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-04-01 05:51 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 07:11 +0100
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-07 12:16 +0100
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-07 12:16 +0100
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 12:42 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-12 20:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 12:46 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-12 21:50 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 00:16 +0100
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-12 21:53 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 09:40 +0100
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-13 09:49 +0100
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-31 23:18 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-31 23:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-01 11:26 +0100
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-01 11:32 +0100
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-01 14:41 +0100
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-01 01:01 +0200
                                                                OT (Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-07 13:54 +0100
                                                                  OT (Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 20:16 +0200
                                                                    Re: OT (Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-07 19:50 +0100
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-03-29 20:28 +0100
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 21:02 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 22:28 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 22:54 +0000
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 22:13 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 22:36 +0000
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 01:04 +0100
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 08:27 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-12 15:55 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 17:30 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-15 10:39 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-20 12:08 +0000
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-21 22:27 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 09:07 +0100
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 09:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 10:34 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-22 16:34 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 20:03 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-22 21:12 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-23 10:53 +0000
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-23 11:35 +0000
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-23 12:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-23 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 08:29 +0000
                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 00:53 +0100
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-12 05:51 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 05:07 +0100
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-20 12:14 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-21 20:23 +0100
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-21 21:41 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-21 22:34 +0000
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 07:19 +0000
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 09:47 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-22 16:41 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-22 20:48 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 22:11 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-22 22:26 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 17:57 +0100
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-22 17:38 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-22 18:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> - 2012-03-23 11:59 +0000
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-23 13:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-23 13:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 19:36 +0100
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-22 19:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-03-23 09:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-23 11:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-03-23 16:35 +0000
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 16:56 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-22 20:00 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-22 21:02 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-23 11:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 00:47 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 08:14 +0000
                                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-23 08:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> - 2012-03-23 15:48 +0000
                                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-03-23 21:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 22:26 +0000
                                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:56 +0000
                                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-03-24 16:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-25 00:13 +0000
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 18:04 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 05:08 +0100
                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 18:35 +0000
                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 19:19 +0000
                                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 21:23 +0000
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-11 11:22 +0100
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 00:49 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 03:26 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-12 06:01 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 15:49 +0000
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-12 16:04 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-12 17:34 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 10:45 +0000
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 01:07 +0100
                                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 11:56 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 18:20 +0000
                                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 09:44 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 11:09 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 12:59 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-17 17:26 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-17 20:05 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-18 16:37 +0000
                                                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-18 18:29 +0000
                                                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-18 21:01 +0000
                                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-03-18 12:03 +0000
                                                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Barry Allen (news)" <evanallen@onetel.net.uk.invalid> - 2012-03-18 13:55 +0000
                                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-17 20:57 +0100
                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 21:09 +0100
                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 15:13 +0000
                                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-13 10:28 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 11:20 +0000
                            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:27 +0000
                              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-10 13:43 +0000
                                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 15:14 +0000
                                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-10 20:13 +0000
                                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 22:43 +0000
                                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-10 23:53 +0000
                                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-11 16:18 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 17:40 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 23:38 -0800
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 14:25 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-03-06 14:40 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 16:47 +0100
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-02 00:35 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-02 10:12 +0100
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-02 20:14 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-02 23:27 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-03 19:29 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 21:37 +0100
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 22:18 +0000
                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 22:37 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 08:16 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 13:15 +0000
                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-05 20:36 +0000
                          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 22:30 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-03 22:26 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:08 +0000
                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-09 01:58 +0100
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 14:57 +0000
                        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 19:19 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 20:37 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-03 20:31 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-03 22:25 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 12:58 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-03 17:27 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 20:07 +0100
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-04 14:11 +0000
            Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 11:04 +0000
              Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 21:58 +0100
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-04 23:56 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 01:00 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 13:02 +0000
                  Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-03-06 15:52 +0000
                  Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 11:37 +0000
                    Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2012-03-07 12:11 +0000
                    Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> - 2012-03-16 03:37 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Robin Hounsome <robin@hounsome.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 16:34 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 19:27 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 09:27 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 13:05 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-07 18:47 +0000
                  Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-03-08 10:19 +0000
                    Re: Iyonix startup "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-08-03 14:04 +0100
                      Re: Iyonix startup ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> - 2012-08-03 22:34 +0100
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 21:32 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:37 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-09 11:42 +1300
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:06 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 20:54 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-01 23:44 +0100
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-03 17:26 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-03-03 23:35 +0100
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-04 14:09 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 16:42 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 19:04 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-01 22:37 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-02 07:34 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2012-03-02 08:17 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-02 10:33 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2012-03-02 10:50 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-02 15:06 +0100
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-02 15:09 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-02 13:24 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-07 09:27 +0000
                  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-07 10:18 +0000
                    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-07 21:06 +0000
                      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 10:10 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-03 17:24 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 20:01 +0100
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-03 20:35 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-04 01:43 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-04 11:47 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:35 +0000

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#3879 — The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!

FromChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net>
Date2012-03-01 17:52 +0000
SubjectThe good, the bad and the RO 5.18!
Message-ID<8e12bd6952.c.n.l.f@virgin.net>
I write because I am not content.

I see that RO 5.18 is available for free to update my Iyonix. This is 
good news so I go to the website and find 2 versions.

This is not so good.

I will now need to make a decision and to do that I will need 
information and the First Rule Of Computing is that the good friend 
who is offering me the update - whatever and whoever  it may be 
- can't know what it is I know and don't know; if you see what I mean.

So I download, save and unzip each and find that one is for the 
nervous - which is me. Good news. I can try it and if it screws up I 
can remove it.

I open the ReadMe file but it doesn't explicitly say what to do with 
the app.  Well, it's a !Boot file so I'm guessing that I just merge 
it. (I can do that.)

But....... how do I 'de-merge' it if it causes grief? No explanation 
can I find.

So, what do I do but open the app .........  and then open the 
directory chain. >>>>>> NO DON'T DO IT. <<<<<<<< Because at the bottom 
a window opens and a 10 second counter starts!

The update is about to self-install!

 AND I'm not told how to stop it!

With 3 secs to go I decide to press 'Escape'.

The world survives, and 007 can get the girl again.

My question is; 'Where's the girl?'

In the mean-time I'll run 5.16 and do what I always do; wait a few 
weeks before a consensus appears on c.s.a.

-- 
BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computers.]

"I'll not lay straight black pud within a Lancastrian pan!" Hugh de 
Nangreave.

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#3881

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-03-01 17:57 +0000
Message-ID<5269bd7ef8dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#3879
I dunno the Iyonix, but could you copy the entire Boot application
somewhere hidden? Then do the update. If there are problems, simply delete
the now 'corrupted' Boot application and replace it with the original.
That assumes a Iyonix can come to a desktop without a boot application.

-- 
*Why is it that rain drops but snow falls?

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#3882

FromIan Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net>
Date2012-03-01 18:10 +0000
Message-ID<5269beae3aIan.Hamilton@AAUG.Net>
In reply to#3881
In article <5269bd7ef8dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
   Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> I dunno the Iyonix, but could you copy the entire Boot application
> somewhere hidden? Then do the update. If there are problems, simply
> delete the now 'corrupted' Boot application and replace it with the
> original. That assumes a Iyonix can come to a desktop without a boot
> application.

I haven't tried the softload but the flash version creates a way to
revert back.

-- 
Ian Hamilton (Iyonix/ARMini) http://www.hamiltoni.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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#3883

FromDoug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com>
Date2012-03-01 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<b656bf6952.dougjwebb@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>
In reply to#3879
In message <8e12bd6952.c.n.l.f@virgin.net>
          ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> wrote:


[snip]

> I open the ReadMe file but it doesn't explicitly say what to do with
> the app.  Well, it's a !Boot file so I'm guessing that I just merge
> it. (I can do that.)

Yes, usual RISC OS !Boot update process of using the merge facility in 
the configuration window and choosing Boot and then Install. Drag the 
!Boot file to the resultant window and click on "Agenda" to see where 
it will store the files two before you click on Merge.

It does actually put !!SoftLoad in to !Boot.Choices.Boot.Predesk so 
you can delete if you wish

Alternatively as it asks each time you restart your machine if you 
want to boot into the softload you can leave it there and at worse it 
adds a few seconds to each reboot.


Doug
-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.17.

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#3885

From"Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com>
Date2012-03-01 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<5269d59248steve@revi11.plus.com>
In reply to#3883
In article <b656bf6952.dougjwebb@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>,
   Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <8e12bd6952.c.n.l.f@virgin.net>
>           ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> wrote:
> > I open the ReadMe file but it doesn't explicitly say what to do with
> > the app.  Well, it's a !Boot file so I'm guessing that I just merge
> > it. (I can do that.)
>
> It does actually put !!SoftLoad in to !Boot.Choices.Boot.Predesk so 
> you can delete if you wish

These are all excellent observations. We do try to make things user-friendly
but you can always do better. I've made a note of these comments and I'll
make sure the ReadMe for the softload has better info in it, as well as a
bit more background info to explain the pros and cons of flash vs softload
on the ROOL site.

Thanks,

Steve

-- 
Steve Revill @ Home
Note: All opinions expressed herein are my own.

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#3949

From"Richard Torrens (News)" <News+15404@Torrens.org.uk>
Date2012-03-05 12:42 +0000
Message-ID<526baffc2bnews*@Torrens.org.uk>
In reply to#3885
In article <5269d59248steve@revi11.plus.com>,
   Ste (news) <steve@revi11.plus.com> wrote:
> These are all excellent observations. We do try to make things
> user-friendly but you can always do better. I've made a note of these
> comments and I'll make sure the ReadMe for the softload has better info
> in it, as well as a bit more background info to explain the pros and
> cons of flash vs softload on the ROOL site.

Is there anywhere a list of improvements?

I don't mean the technobabble list for the programmer. A pain English list
for the avarage user who isn't a programmer.

If no such list exists - it should. If it does exist, it should be easier
to find!

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#3956

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2012-03-05 16:35 +0100
Message-ID<almarsoft.9048114374896083006@news.orange.fr>
In reply to#3949
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:42:17 +0000 (GMT), "Richard Torrens (News)" 
<News+15404@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:

> Is there anywhere a list of improvements?

http://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/tungsten-changes-5-16-to-5-
18 


> I don't mean the technobabble list for the programmer.

Ah. Well... After the scary list are some nice purplish boxes that 
talk about...quite a number of OMAP3 changes and stuff. All important 
if you will be playing with RISC OS yourself, but...

> A pain English list for the avarage user who isn't a programmer.

...you want a PowerPoint-like list of bullet points as not so many 
people care that something called aoftoc crashed, burned, died, was 
resurrected and now can run rings around pink-haired-Stephanie... but 
it would be nice to know if scroll mice work properly or (remembering 
something Jim said) the Iyo audio player didn't try to do everything 
at 48kHz.

In other words - a *reason* for "users" to upgrade.


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#3963

FromChris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
Date2012-03-05 18:36 +0000
Message-ID<526bd06ad7chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
In reply to#3956
In article <almarsoft.9048114374896083006@news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Iyo audio player didn't try to do everything 
> at 48kHz.

Was that not down to the hardware chip used?

-- 
Chris Johnson

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#3964

FromRon Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2012-03-05 19:14 +0000
Message-ID<526bd3e869ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
In reply to#3956
In article <almarsoft.9048114374896083006@news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> In other words - a *reason* for "users" to upgrade.

Because thanks to a lot of hard work by several people, RISC OS 5.18 is
significantly better than 5.16. 

Does anyone really need a better reason?

Regards Ron.

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#3977

FromRichard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net>
Date2012-03-06 09:26 +0000
Message-ID<526c21f08brichtnews@uwclub.net>
In reply to#3964
In article <526bd3e869ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <almarsoft.9048114374896083006@news.orange.fr>,
>    Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> [Snip]

> > In other words - a *reason* for "users" to upgrade.

> Because thanks to a lot of hard work by several people, RISC OS 5.18 is
> significantly better than 5.16. 

> Does anyone really need a better reason?

Well, a definition of 'better' might be nice. Like is it going to be better
in those areas that are important to me?

R.

-- 

  Richard Travers 
  richtnews@uwclub.net
  

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#3979

FromM Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk>
Date2012-03-06 10:45 +0000
Message-ID<526c291aafriscos@mdharding.org.uk>
In reply to#3977
In article <526c21f08brichtnews@uwclub.net>,
   Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
> In article <526bd3e869ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>,
>    Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <almarsoft.9048114374896083006@news.orange.fr>,
> >    Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > [Snip]

> > > In other words - a *reason* for "users" to upgrade.

> > Because thanks to a lot of hard work by several people, RISC OS
> > 5.18 is significantly better than 5.16. 

> > Does anyone really need a better reason?

> Well, a definition of 'better' might be nice. Like is it going to
> be better in those areas that are important to me?

Agreed. And for someone successfully using RISC OS 4.02 with 2
SA-VRPCs  & 4.03 with a Kinetic RPC, I'd need a vast incentive to
risk b******g-up the 3 linked machines, let alone spending the time
upgrading them. (Most of the time, of course, reading up & checking
that I wouldn't be doing irrevocable harm.)  I do rely on RISC OS for
all administrative tasks.

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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#3986

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-03-06 15:19 +0000
Message-ID<526c422cffdave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#3979
In article <526c291aafriscos@mdharding.org.uk>,
   M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> > Well, a definition of 'better' might be nice. Like is it going to
> > be better in those areas that are important to me?

> Agreed. And for someone successfully using RISC OS 4.02 with 2
> SA-VRPCs  & 4.03 with a Kinetic RPC, I'd need a vast incentive to
> risk b******g-up the 3 linked machines, let alone spending the time
> upgrading them. (Most of the time, of course, reading up & checking
> that I wouldn't be doing irrevocable harm.)  I do rely on RISC OS for
> all administrative tasks.

I upgraded both my 4.02 machines to 4.39. Found that worthwhile. One is a
soft load. I then bought RO5 at a show - discount price. So much either
didn't work or needed upgrading I removed it and sold it. Of course this
may depend on what apps you most use.

-- 
*Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#3994

FromSteve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date2012-03-06 19:22 +0000
Message-ID<mpro.m0h9ty03ajejk01c3.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
In reply to#3986
On 6 Mar, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
    <526c422cffdave@davenoise.co.uk>:

> I upgraded both my 4.02 machines to 4.39. Found that worthwhile. One is a
> soft load. I then bought RO5 at a show - discount price. So much either
> didn't work or needed upgrading I removed it and sold it. Of course this
> may depend on what apps you most use.

IIRC you mean RISC OS 6 there, not RISC OS 5?

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England             Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
                                             Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/           http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/

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#3997

From"John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
Date2012-03-06 20:45 +0100
Message-ID<526c5a9bbeUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
In reply to#3994
In article <mpro.m0h9ty03ajejk01c3.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
   Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> IIRC you mean RISC OS 6 there, not RISC OS 5?

RISC OS 5 is indeed free!

John

-- 
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/

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#4036

FromBryn Evans <d@a.invalid>
Date2012-03-07 15:44 +0000
Message-ID<csam934fc86c52.Bryn@yo.rk>
In reply to#3994
In a mad moment - Steve Fryatt  mumbled :

> On 6 Mar, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
>     <526c422cffdave@davenoise.co.uk>:

>> I upgraded both my 4.02 machines to 4.39. Found that worthwhile. One is a
>> soft load. I then bought RO5 at a show - discount price. So much either
>> didn't work or needed upgrading I removed it and sold it. Of course this
>> may depend on what apps you most use.

> IIRC you mean RISC OS 6 there, not RISC OS 5?

Veering slightly to one side for a quick question -

I have been trying out the "Work in Progress" version, RO 5.19
which is listed as being for the RPC. So far it seems to do the 
softload part then stalls with a blank screen.

This is on my spare RPC RO 4.02 with 98Mb memory.
A re-boot without doing the softload restores normality.

Can anyone please tell me if this does work in any way yet, or am I 
being too eager, or else is it just me and have I missed out some 
vital step?


-- 
|)    [
|)ryn [vans            mail to - BrynEvans@bryork.freeuk.com



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#3993

FromRon Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2012-03-06 17:13 +0000
Message-ID<526c4caf91ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
In reply to#3977
In article <526c21f08brichtnews@uwclub.net>,
   Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
> > Because thanks to a lot of hard work by several people, RISC OS 5.18 is
> > significantly better than 5.16. 

> > Does anyone really need a better reason?

> Well, a definition of 'better' might be nice. Like is it going to be
> better in those areas that are important to me?

How long is a piece of string? For a person using RISC OS 4.02 the fact that
RISC OS 5.18 is significantly better than 5.16 may well be of little use for
said person.

For an excellent precis of the latest changes see Sprow's posting.

You are the only person who can decide wether RISC OS 5.18 is better in
areas that are important to you. Certainly not I, because you haven't said
what the areas that you deem important to you are.

Regards Ron.

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#3996

Fromchurch <church@mdharding.org.uk>
Date2012-03-06 19:35 +0000
Message-ID<526c59a8cechurch@mdharding.org.uk>
In reply to#3993
In article <526c4caf91ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <526c21f08brichtnews@uwclub.net>,
>    Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
> > > Because thanks to a lot of hard work by several people, RISC OS 5.18 is
> > > significantly better than 5.16. 

> > > Does anyone really need a better reason?

> > Well, a definition of 'better' might be nice. Like is it going to
> > be better in those areas that are important to me?

> How long is a piece of string? For a person using RISC OS 4.02 the
> fact that RISC OS 5.18 is significantly better than 5.16 may well
> be of little use for said person.

> For an excellent precis of the latest changes see Sprow's posting.

My previous post seems in retrospect to be somewhat churlish, because
Sprow's posting was indeed superb in its listing.

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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#4010

Fromdruck <news@druck.org.uk>
Date2012-03-07 09:11 +0000
Message-ID<jj78oi$moi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3964
On 05/03/2012 19:14, Ron Briscoe wrote:
> In article<almarsoft.9048114374896083006@news.orange.fr>,
>     Rick Murray<heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
>> In other words - a *reason* for "users" to upgrade.
>
> Because thanks to a lot of hard work by several people, RISC OS 5.18 is
> significantly better than 5.16.
>
> Does anyone really need a better reason?

I would urge caution though, as demonstrated by the Iyonix list, people 
are not taking adequate precautions to fully backup their systems before 
upgrading, so they can revert to their previous OS should problems occur.

It is inevitable that any change to the OS, even minor ones, will break 
some applications people rely on. Even bug fixes to the OS may then 
expose formerly hidden bugs in the application, caused by invalid 
assumptions that things would continue to work the same way forever.

The big problem for RISC OS users now, is that 99.9% of applications are 
no longer maintained, so are very unlikely to be fixed. Unless one of 
the few remaining developers also use them, and are sufficiently 
motivated to put out a patch for them.

By all means try the new OS versions, but realise that you may not be 
able to take all of your existing software with you. So when you find 
that critical application will no longer run, make sure you can make the 
step back to a previous OS quickly and easily.

---druck

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#4013

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-03-07 10:18 +0000
Message-ID<526caa7b20dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#4010
In article <jj78oi$moi$1@dont-email.me>,
   druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> By all means try the new OS versions, but realise that you may not be 
> able to take all of your existing software with you. So when you find 
> that critical application will no longer run, make sure you can make the 
> step back to a previous OS quickly and easily.

Excellent advice.

-- 
*Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject 

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#4014

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-03-07 09:48 +0000
Message-ID<526ca7b601Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#4010
In article <jj78oi$moi$1@dont-email.me>,
   druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> The big problem for RISC OS users now, is that 99.9% of applications are 
> no longer maintained,

Fortunatly the important ones, to me at least, are.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org


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