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  RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-22 15:46 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-22 16:28 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 00:30 +0000
        Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 10:02 +0000
          Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-25 19:51 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 02:02 +0100
              Re: RiscPC problem Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2011-12-26 09:31 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 18:38 +0000
                  Re: RiscPC problem Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 18:54 +0000
                    Re: RiscPC problem Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 21:16 +0000
                    Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:05 +0000
                      Re: RiscPC problem Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2012-01-03 21:36 +0000
                        Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 23:50 +0000
                        Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 09:06 +0000
                          Re: RiscPC problem cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-01-04 09:41 +0000
                            Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 09:52 +0000
                          Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-04 18:14 +0000
                      Re: RiscPC problem Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 14:21 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 17:07 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 18:41 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 21:07 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-26 23:56 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 12:18 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-01 16:11 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 12:26 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 23:48 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> - 2011-12-28 21:33 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 10:55 +0000
                  Re: RiscPC problem charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 12:20 +0000
                  Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 13:25 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Richard Torrens <Richard@Torrens.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 14:26 +0000
                  Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-01 16:09 +0000
                  Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:16 +0000
                  Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-04 18:22 +0000
                    Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 20:34 +0000
                    Re: RiscPC problem Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-01-04 20:38 +0000
                      Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-04 22:52 +0000
                    Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-05 09:56 +0000
                      Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-05 11:21 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-12-22 17:40 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-12-22 17:41 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 00:28 +0000
        Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 07:49 +0100
      Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 07:44 +0100
        Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 11:36 +0000
        Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 12:01 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-22 20:07 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 08:08 +0100

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#3088

On 22/12/2011 17:40, druck wrote:
> On 22/12/2011 15:46, Chris Newman wrote:
>> Internal error: abort on instruction fetch at&01370D30
>
> Get where from http://www.armclub.org.uk/free/ press F12 and type:-

That should be http://www.armclub.org.uk/32bit/
>
> where
>
> This will tell you if that error is a module, and which one it is.
>
> ---druck

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#3090

In article <jcvq39$50c$1@dont-email.me>,
   druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 22/12/2011 15:46, Chris Newman wrote:
> > Internal error: abort on instruction fetch at&01370D30

> Get where from http://www.armclub.org.uk/free/ press F12 and type:-

>    where

> This will tell you if that error is a module, and which one it is.

Thanks Druck but it downloaded as a Zip file containing a makefile, a Utility
caleed Where, 2 empty directories o & s respectively. As there was no idiots
guide, what do I do with all those bits? (Be careful how you answer.....

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#3096

On 23/12/2011 01:28, Chris Newman wrote:

>> This will tell you if that error is a module, and which one it is.

> Thanks Druck but it downloaded as a Zip file containing a makefile, a Utility
> caleed Where, 2 empty directories o&  s respectively. As there was no idiots
> guide, what do I do with all those bits? (Be careful how you answer.....

"Where" (utility) probably ought to go in your Library so you can type 
it from the command line from anywhere.

This is: !Boot.Library - just drop it in there


The "s" directory is for assembler source, the "o" directory is for 
object files (a sort of intermediate step between assembled code and the 
final executable file), and the MakeFile is the bit that tells the build 
environment how to take the file in the "s" folder and turn it into the 
"Where" executable. ALL OF THIS CAN BE IGNORED.

[thinks: there's nothing in "s"? seems a bit odd giving the makefile 
without the sources to build...]


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#3095

On 22/12/2011 18:40, druck wrote:

> On 22/12/2011 15:46, Chris Newman wrote:
>> Internal error: abort on instruction fetch at&01370D30

> Get where from http://www.armclub.org.uk/free/ press F12 and type:-
> where
> This will tell you if that error is a module, and which one it is.

Except with the teeny-tiny caveat that it would appear that when this 
problem manifests itself, the machine freezes so keyboard is 
non-responsive... The best he could do is see what is there *now*, but 
with a pinch of salt as if the boot sequence isn't working entirely 
correctly (ref. Organiser loading but Menu Bar skipped [*]) it might not 
be accurate in fault condition.


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - It may be that Menu Bar polls a few times before putting up an icon
     bar icon so it is actually loaded but just not 'visible'?

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#3102

In article <4ef42355$0$5702$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/12/2011 18:40, druck wrote:

> > On 22/12/2011 15:46, Chris Newman wrote:
> >> Internal error: abort on instruction fetch at&01370D30

Thanks to Druck & Rick for help so far. I've now got "Where" safely in
Boot.Library. 
The fault hasn't reared its ugly head again so I shall let sleeping dogs lie
for the moment. Fingers crossed...........

Bah! Humbug! / Merry Christmas  (Delete as applicable)

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#3103

In article <4ef42355$0$5702$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/12/2011 18:40, druck wrote:

> > On 22/12/2011 15:46, Chris Newman wrote:
> >> Internal error: abort on instruction fetch at&01370D30

> > Get where from http://www.armclub.org.uk/free/ press F12 and type:-
> > where
> > This will tell you if that error is a module, and which one it is.

> Except with the teeny-tiny caveat that it would appear that when this 
> problem manifests itself, the machine freezes so keyboard is 
> non-responsive... The best he could do is see what is there *now*, but 
> with a pinch of salt as if the boot sequence isn't working entirely 
> correctly (ref. Organiser loading but Menu Bar skipped [*]) it might not 
> be accurate in fault condition.

Yes. Catch 22 situation.


> Best wishes,

> Rick.

> * - It may be that Menu Bar polls a few times before putting up an icon
>      bar icon so it is actually loaded but just not 'visible'?

Ah! Hadn't thought of that.

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3089

On 22 Dec, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
> I‘m posting this to comp.sys.acorn.misc & Archive on line.

> Help! My trusty RiscPC (running Adjust 4.39) is suddenly not so trusty.
 Adding to my own post. Is that allowed?
Sorry, didn't identify myself....

Chris Newman

Bah! Humbug! / Merry Christmas  (Delete as applicable)

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#3097

On 22/12/2011 21:07, Chris Newman wrote:

> Sorry, didn't identify myself....
> Chris Newman

We know. :-)

You message header says:
--8<--------
From: Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com>
--8<--------

You're using Pluto 3.04, and your RiscPC is running RISC OS 4.39. :-)


Hmmm... Your ISP (Waitrose) appears to be using Giganews as the 
newsgroups provider, which explains why the posting date as understood 
by the server has a -6h00 timezone attribute; plus notices in the header 
yacking about the DMCA [no, that's not an old song resurrected as a gay 
anthem, it's a ill-conceived wide-ranging bit of half-assed *American* 
legislation, one of a number that attempts to make people *criminals* 
for basic circumvention of copy protection, because ranking a software 
pirate akin to, say, a murderer, is simpler and cheaper than either 
using existing copyright laws correctly, or changing their g*ddamn 
business model to reflect the fact that the wired revolution has not 
only happened, but it happened a generation ago... or maybe just 
accepting that charging the same (and sometimes *more*) for a digital 
download than a real actual CD is, you know, gonna irk some people].

Replies to the slagging of Big Media probably best directed to 
alt.flame... ;-)


> Bah! Humbug! / Merry Christmas  (Delete as applicable)

I'm in the Bah! Humbug! camp this year. There's a lot of work on for the 
company I work for, so we don't get a Christmas break. Meh. I'll have to 
feed a big SD card into my video recorder. At least I was able to pick 
up a copy of the Christmas RadioTimes today in town (€4,95 - flippin' 
highway robbery; but I find it a LOT easier to deal with printed paper 
with downwards columns than the side-to-side EPG-style layout of, well, 
EPGs (duh!) and sites like www.tvguide.co.uk).

I just hope there's some stuff worth watching (recording)!


Best wishes,

Rick.

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