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Hi All,

My sincere thanks to everyone who has answered my request for help, 
especially Bob for his blow by blow account, which is just what I needed.

Kind regards
John



In message <5c548b66c5bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
          Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <c12d71545c.john@user.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
>    J Peachey <john@jpeachey.co.uk> wrote:

>> Hi All

>> Does anyone know of a set of instructions for getting a RISC OS
>> machine talking and sharing files with :

>> 1. A Windoz 11 machine
>> 2. A Linux based machine.


> It depends. When you say share files with windoze and linux, do you
> mean riscos files or PC/NAS/linux files?

> I ask because LM98 is excellent for transferring riscos files to and
> from a PC/NAS etc. that only use 7 bit characters. BUT !! if you wish
> to look at say a music library stored on a NAS then IMHO LM98 is next
> to useless. I have found many commonly used utf-8 codes that not only
> don't display anything within a file name but many prevent the file
> being visible at all. LM98 can't tell the difference between a small
> letter a with an acute (C3 A1) and a space (C2 A0), they both return
> &A0 in LM98. (Codes in brackets are utf-8.)

> On the other hand, Sunfish can be used in a "no conversion mode"
> which seems to give the direct UTF-8 codes from a NAS and/or a PC. I
> find this a god send, your milage may vary.

> To use Sunfish with a PC you need an NFS server installed on the
> windoze PC. I've had great success with the haneWIN NFS server. It's
> about £23. There is a free server but that is less solid IMHO.

> The only issue I have with Sunfish is the front end, it's grim and
> patience testing but once you get there Sunfish is King, in my
> opinion of course.

> OKay LM98, you asked for it...

> Connecting with Lanman98 to a W10 or W11 computer.
> =================================================

> Check PC network connection is set to Private !!!!

> 2). Make sure 'SMB1 Server' is running on the computer.
>     Control Panel
>     Programs and features
>     On LHS - Turn windows features on or off
>     Slide down the new window..
>     SMB 1.0 /CIFS File Sharing Support-
>     SMB 1.0 /CIFS Server = ticked.
> ------------------------------------------------

> 3). Control Panel - Network and Sharing Centre.
>     Change Advanced Sharing Settings.

> Private
> =======
> Turn on network discovery.
> Turn on file and printer sharing.

> Guest or Public
> ===============
> Turn off network discovery + auto setup.
> Turn off file and printer sharing.

> All Networks
> ============
> Turn off Public folder sharing.
> Set: 128 bit encryption. (works fine for Lanman98)

> If the PC has no password at log in then..
> Set: Turn off Password Protected Sharing.

> If you need a password to use the PC then..
> Set: Turn on Password Protected Sharing.

> The above works fine W7 to W11 with or without password.
> ----------------------------------------

> 4). Make sure the PC thinks it is connected to a private network
> and not a public network.


> 5). Sharing a directory (folder)

> Right button click on the folder you wish to share with RISCOS.
>  Select properties.
>    In the new  Properties window..
>    Select the Sharing tab.
>    Click the "Advanced Sharing" button.
>      In the Advanced Sharing window..
>      Tick the "Share this folder" tick box.
>      It then offers a share name the same as the folder
>      name but you can change that to whatever you like.
>      Set the share name then click apply.

>      Click Permissions button, this sets the share permissions.
>      Give user "Everyone" Full Control.
>      Click OK in the Permissions window.
>      Click OK in the Advanced Sharing window.

>      Now in the Properties window click the Security tab.
>      This is to set the folder permissions.
>      Click the Edit button.

>        In the Permissions window click the Add button.
>        In the box type:  Everyone
>        Then click Check Names.
>        Then click OK.
>        In the permissions window select the
>        Everyone you've just added.
>        Tick the allow full control box.
>        Click OK.
> Done !!

> You can check the shares offered by the PC.
> Run the command prompt and type: net share

> This will list shares on the machine.


> Lanman98 - the RISCOS end.
> ==========================

> One of the big things here is to tell Lanman98 what
> the IP address of the PC is, without that info it
> will not be able to connect.

> There are two ways to do that:

> 1. Use the Hosts file at
>    $.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.Hosts
>    Edit that file and add the IP address and
>    then the network name of the PC computer.

> If you do that then everything on the RISCOS machine
> will know the address of the PC including Lanman98.

> 2. Add the IP address along side the network
>    name in the Link info for the that connection in
>    Lanman98 discs.

> I don't ever bother with the GUI for setting up share
> connections for Lanman98, I just creat a new link file
> for it.

> Examples link file.

> Server: RED           << name of PC/NAS on network
> Share: mystuff        << name of your share on the above.
> User: Bob             << the user account name.
> Password: opensaysme  << the password *IF* you use one.


> That's it. Don't include the password line if your PC
> isn't using passwords and obviously don't include
> the << info bits.

> Create the file type LM98Link(069) with the above in it.
> Obviously the values should be for your PC not mine.

> If you have NOT put the IP address of the PC in the Hosts
> file then you can add it to the server name in the above
> file like this..

> Server: RED<192.168.1.36>
> Share: mystuff
> Etc.


> Works great on W11 this week August 2025.


> Bob.



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