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copyright in Russia

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>>>>> Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> writes:
>>>>> In comp.unix.shell Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> writes:
>>>>> In comp.unix.shell Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> wrote:

	[Cross-posting to news:comp.software.licensing and
	news:misc.int-property, and setting Followup-To: there, for the
	discussion doesn't belong to the Newsgroups: currently in
	effect.]

[...]

 >>>> Good luck selling your product to anyone speaking French, Greek,
 >>>> Polish or Russian.

 >>> like greeks have money to buy software or a russian has ever made a
 >>> legit software purchase.

 >> There were the rumors that Sberbank is the largest partner of
 >> Microsoft in Europe.  (Perhaps [1] may shed some light on this.)

 >> And not to mention all those gamers on Steam.

 >> One may sell services based on software just as well, BTW.

 >> [1] http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/6062_Sberbank.doc

 > So 10 years ago, one bank in russia may have had some legit microsoft
 > licenses.  This alone is actually impressive.

	Actually, free software (as in freedom) is quite popular in
	Russia, as is freeware (as in beer), although license terms
	violations also occur with these two.

	Also to note is that the copyright law in Russia was extended to
	cover software in 1994, IIRC, and it took a decade for the
	common people, as well as the judicial system itself, to get
	accustomed to the concept.

	In the recent years, the laws made a shift towards more severe
	punishments, and there were some widely-publicized court cases
	related to the copyright law.  The net result is that illegal
	copies of software are now rarely seen at least in state-owned
	enterprise (while being commonplace there in the mid-1990s.)
	The proliferation of mobile computers (which typically come with
	an OEM-licensed version of an OS pre-installed) also made such
	copies somewhat harder (though not impossible altogether) to
	find at home.

 > Everything else is russia is still pirated.

	When it comes to the terms, I doubt that the victims of the real
	pirates (say, [1, 2]) would readily accept the very notion of
	the corporations being "piracy victims, too."

	That being said, I share the opinion of that the copyright law,
	in its current form, /impedes/ progress, instead of facilitating
	it.  I've briefly read through [3], and I'd like to recommend it
	to anyone interested in this view.

[1] http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014376628_apuspiracyvictimsmemorial.html
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_Somalia
[3] http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/full_pdfs/Access_to_Knowledge_in_the_Age_of_Intellectual_Property.pdf

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