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Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1?

From Evan24 <ha15@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.math.maple, sci.math.symbolic
Subject Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1?
Date 2011-07-14 15:19 +0000
Organization The Math Forum
Message-ID <ivn1dn$glu$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <SalmonEgg-AD7243.16274013072011@news60.forteinc.com> <987jtmF301U1@mid.individual.net>

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:24:08 +0200, Axel Vogt wrote:

> On 14.07.2011 01:27, Salmon Egg wrote:
>> I already know the answer.
>>
>> If I get to an expression
>>
>>   z := x*exp(-(1/2)*x)/(2*sinh((1/2)*x))*((exp(x)-1)/x)
>>
>> How do I get Maple to spit out 1? simplify does not do it.
>>
>> I looked at the help for simplify, and looked up convert and then See
>> Also. That looked promising, so I went to help on Convert. Convert had
>> a bus load of optional arguments. exp looked promising and worked, much
>> to my pleasant surprise.
>>
>> If I were even less knowledgeable than I am, how could I go about
>> finding a correct approach? Is it merely an empirical search? Is there
>> a guidebook? Suppose I had a much more complicated expression, say with
>> radicals and Bessel functions. Us there a cookbook approach to
>> simplification?
> 
> For guessing I often just plot as a first step ...
> 
> Difficult to say, though I would expect that Maple would try to convert
> hyperbolics to exp, as we would do, since other exp terms are present.
> 
> The simplification problem is not specific for Maple, but it is a
> problem in any symbolic software system (thus I included
> sci.math.symbolic)

For what is worth, im Maxima 5.23.2, trigrat(z) gives 1.

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How to I get Maple to spit out 1? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-07-13 16:27 -0700
  Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1? Axel Vogt <&noreply@axelvogt.de> - 2011-07-14 09:24 +0200
    Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1? "G. A. Edgar" <edgar@math.ohio-state.edu.invalid> - 2011-07-14 06:20 -0600
    Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-07-14 05:23 -0700
      Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1? Axel Vogt <&noreply@axelvogt.de> - 2011-07-14 21:48 +0200
    Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1? Evan24 <ha15@earthlink.net> - 2011-07-14 15:19 +0000
    Re: How to I get Maple to spit out 1? clicliclic@freenet.de - 2011-07-14 22:30 +0200

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