Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Harry Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.security.pgp.tech,comp.security.pgp.discuss Subject: Re: NSA cryptanalyst: "We, too, are Americans" Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 19:54:46 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <87152dfdfde6db377063648f321c8ce1@remailer.paranoici.org> <9BBeu.95258$SO6.54293@fx16.iad> NNTP-Posting-Host: 5hAWY+F6n54TgA1Xk/VBEw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131107-2, 2013-11-07), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com comp.security.pgp.tech:50 comp.security.pgp.discuss:254 On 2013-11-06 19:58, unruh wrote: > On 2013-11-06, Harry wrote: >>> >> I was somewhat amused by reports that Canada's spy agency was also up to >> its neck in this stuff but of course "was not spying on Canadians". Who >> do they think these governments are fooling. They pass laws or >> directives to prevent spying on the locals but then just get a >> neighboring country to do it for them and share the data. > > It is not at all clear to me that there is any law in Canada which > prevents CSIS or the RCMP from spying on locals. > Apparently the guy in charge of oversight said that they were not supposed to be spying on Canadians but that he was unable to tell from the reports provided by the agency whether in fact they were indeed not doing so. That should give us a lot of comfort! -- Harry