Path: csiph.com!news.uzoreto.com!news.etla.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!usenet-its.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: tale Newsgroups: comp.protocols.dns.bind Subject: Re: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:09:30 -0400 Lines: 21 Approved: bind-users@lists.isc.org Message-ID: References: <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D2E7F@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D2F10@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <2b5f4d05-b1a8-760c-3082-43843ed486fe@thelounge.net> <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D2FA1@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <6091f715-d145-ab3f-d09b-5ec502575873@thelounge.net> <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D30C8@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <5F11E663.1060805@ipinc.net> <4641DBC7-ED26-40E3-9141-AE8A70846027@kreme.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.isc.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1595261387 6728 149.20.1.60 (20 Jul 2020 16:09:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: bind-users To: "@lbutlr" Return-Path: X-Original-To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Delivered-To: bind-users@lists.isc.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=salesforce.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=58yW4/GXeIRJoih0l5wCaWBuxJjJDsGWjpapHdlnbI0=; b=GGelDbgmc0Ovwv80YBVUBB6kqq2lGvkrtMQtHv4P/p5H2SPcc/akc4AlsIPI2uMMs/ VQOndLj6NcknTXWZZar05x3a2POg7TKc8xjZ1fNggtkumR2qGYXHhz3ViAXneQrBo+KN X1Hg2CsD43HwQMWuEwqP9gzz4+gIug8mF4T1A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=58yW4/GXeIRJoih0l5wCaWBuxJjJDsGWjpapHdlnbI0=; b=JSGeggf3TvYShtuBioolCNKuYhq9insjhN+JSfd6vjR9ttjZMDcJUrBYeN2NF+XPCm cNz/699SRu7kLlwPzbIdvdalHGc7VH60bUfdsVF+hnxwD+HgZ9/tl3kiDA7HjcOdHBAP m1XL9+2a0Zv8QLLpd21v4VXBbiYmK+rDH7DJofxY+4UXJmty5hjD47NGRdMiqxCwPD9w r5ZUO9V0MiMHzJjEJdZDYGvQ6jED9T2CVTmugIIc7asA0be6zYyQjKsmwp/au6Wm/0a2 5Mo/z6XLa7TgrF2wCLTmek3Tjj4BmgbZwWEgMT+erAG8Fnkpa3mFLx8Y7gCDDpVxtchD /sDg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533eal9erqS6WvT5rvFwIS9YAgnYaGZjtkhqAkD+ygdemiFNbmw3 VH90vokQunl5Dy2cuWLvYtiEH0r2/Pqddctph4hkDtbE X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwH003j9tc/lhacZxU3dfB4iuGAoUzhyFD/mGVUEDwgrwWjLmIK3IB9Ci/PBGJ4+4NfFCuBdl3OvuGAnpor5JY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7688:: with SMTP id m8mr18817398pll.12.1595261381210; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4641DBC7-ED26-40E3-9141-AE8A70846027@kreme.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mx.pao1.isc.org X-BeenThere: bind-users@lists.isc.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BIND Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D2E7F@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D2F10@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <2b5f4d05-b1a8-760c-3082-43843ed486fe@thelounge.net> <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D2FA1@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <6091f715-d145-ab3f-d09b-5ec502575873@thelounge.net> <3E18C1A0C550C44DA156DA5DA8ECCC6AB60D30C8@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <5F11E663.1060805@ipinc.net> <4641DBC7-ED26-40E3-9141-AE8A70846027@kreme.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.protocols.dns.bind:15988 On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 7:06 AM @lbutlr wrote: > On 17 Jul 2020, at 11:56, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > In fact, the ONLY reason that the name "bind9" was ever even coined > > at all was because the changes from bind8 both in the syntax of the > > config file and how the program operated they wanted to boot admins > > in the behind to get them to change their config files. > > This. Exactly this. Well, one minor bit of clarification is important. While highlighting the significant change in software might have been the motivation for why some installers chose to go with the name bind9 in place of named in some contexts, it was also a major design goal of BIND9 that it could run as a drop-in replacement for BIND8 on most configurations. It achieved this goal. The basic syntax was unchanged and configuration behavior was largely the same but for a little bit around the edges. And for what it's worth, not all systems moved away from "named" to "bind9". I've been running FreeBSD for decades, and I can't remember ever calling the service "bind9".