Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!news.uzoreto.com!news.etla.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!usenet-its.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Ben Lavender Newsgroups: comp.protocols.dns.bind Subject: Re: BIND Masters and slaves Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:09:04 +0100 Lines: 40 Approved: bind-users@lists.isc.org Message-ID: References: <614285A0-CBD4-41AA-BD84-B0F0C3C24626@versatushpc.com.br> <3939648a-1781-bce3-8ccf-ab21fb2fa730@airnet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.isc.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1592233755 26310 149.20.1.60 (15 Jun 2020 15:09:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu To: Tony Finch , bind-users Return-Path: X-Original-To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Delivered-To: bind-users@lists.isc.org X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=tNHsOuv3fSStgsZ0n1u9X+HwIRQitxt7ZRPzm6lrQ8w=; b=Z2QGft7RIgFwQKZXNRrc0oDQfPTN86QVA+I0mXQR3tlQhYVWpTCSehe3mhzbpUF7ci IOGLm9gc/OzZm5opHSzvSmeRHBNdutBEk3BDPlp0nXPIMy3KamcV1LaiyJ/qTDFVOBz7 w8k/udKp7Vepvb76o4HiRb57onFa57nGG24K69kgvyIdTHmDFBmDxffx+L0jAdws3CpE xVcgpq+8BbEJhitej01DYMKE6i95qwhHVl2NQKFw4rXrY9qZrP7Fm85xbnGoaAYklyyp QuaI+MLtVRBJwMvpdYEbUCPSJ8pUS3/jha1WHhkdH2BnNFpB/diUYf5TrEE2pvHGnwm7 /sxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530lSUPTyuB1YYg7lDoY4xel2txS1v80A9SV3XK6ltz4quTFi1NR 2o2sHGlzSYT3J8G3wFpIqmvHeN7LRK6SMA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhoyd8KhK82R/gAFnplJBf3yyPfAhfj3eh969i9FGl4igw7HbGSi7LwH0kJWn3WZ1wbmmguQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:a74d:: with SMTP id q74mr13441079wme.177.1592233746349; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:09:06 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,KAM_SHORT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mx.pao1.isc.org X-BeenThere: bind-users@lists.isc.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BIND Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <3939648a-1781-bce3-8ccf-ab21fb2fa730@airnet.org.uk> X-Mailman-Original-References: <614285A0-CBD4-41AA-BD84-B0F0C3C24626@versatushpc.com.br> Xref: csiph.com comp.protocols.dns.bind:15838 The terminology is fairly misleading, as in the slave is not doing the work on-behalf of or instruction of the the master. But there is ways for the master to influence the slaves; such as "allow-transfer". I don't see the big issue with making a terminology change in this case. On 15/06/2020 15:38, Tony Finch wrote: > Vinícius Ferrão via bind-users wrote: >> But the prevalence of terms are still master and slave. And I really >> hope this thing of changing nomenclatures doesn’t go any further due to >> political correctness. > "Political correctness" just means being considerate for other people, > especially people who do not have many of the advantages we might take for > granted. > > In any case, master/slave is bad terminology because it is actively > misleading. It suggests that zone transfers to downstream servers are > under the control of the upstream servers, which is definitely not the > case. And it suggests a binary categorization of servers which is also > wrong, because zone transfers often form a multi-level cascade between > servers that perform several different functions. It's better to talk > about update servers, signing servers, zone transfer servers, public or > private or stealth authoritative servers. For zone transfers it's better > to talk about which servers are upstream and downstream of each other in > the distribution network. > > You should find that your writing is easier to understand, both for > experts and non-experts, if you don't use the bad old terminology. > > Tony. > > _______________________________________________ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list > > ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. > > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users