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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
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| Newsgroups | comp.programming |
| Subject | Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? |
| Date | 2025-07-28 11:37 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <1067ndk$qka$1@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
| References | <vqmi1p$f1f$1@reader1.panix.com> <86y0xdt1li.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vqn4oq$1eimo$1@dont-email.me> <dfKdnVPGfK2J_8_1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
In article <dfKdnVPGfK2J_8_1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >On 3/10/25 12:42 PM, Richard Harnden wrote: >> On 10/03/2025 14:14, Tim Rentsch wrote: >>> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes: >>> >>>> [Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals] >>>> >>>> I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a >>>> new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust >>>> programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a >>>> compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open >>>> development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in >>>> industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related >>>> to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>> >>> I am in favor of creating comp.lang.rust, and hereby >>> officially give Dan Cross my proxy in any voting. >>> >>> If comp.lang.rust is created, I expect I will at least >>> try reading it for a while. I have had a longstanding >>> interest in learning rust, and have been frustated by >>> how horrible the existing explanatory materials are. >> >> There is an alt.comp.lang.rust - but it has very little traffic - >> comp.lang.rust would be better. I need to get off my bum and follow up here. The response showed sufficient interest to warrant moving further in the process, I've just had very little time to do so. > There is nothing WRONG with Rust. You can build > big/complex programs using it. > > However it STILL stinks of Yet Another 'C' Replacement. > Same capability, but with much more annoying syntax. > > CLUE guys - make it EASIER, not WEIRDER. > > Rust DOES enforce some 'safety' stuff - but if you're > a half-assed 'C' programmer you already DO all that. 50 years of empirical evidence has shown that, sadly, this is just not true. Even our best and brightest C programmers still regularly make mistakes that simply impossible to represent in Rust, along with other languages. There's a reason that new languages keep appearing to address these issues, and it's not just hubris on the part of the designers, or a desire to be different for the sake of being different. - Dan C.
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Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-10 07:46 -0400
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-10 07:14 -0700
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-10 16:42 +0000
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-18 02:51 -0400
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-28 11:37 +0000
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-07-28 13:50 +0200
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-28 15:16 +0000
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-07-28 17:59 +0200
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-28 22:18 +0000
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Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-30 18:00 +0000
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Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-30 18:40 +0000
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Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-30 18:53 +0000
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Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-30 11:30 +0000
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-07-30 16:51 +0100
Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-07-30 18:00 +0000
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Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-10 17:35 -0400
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