Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.spitfire.i.gajendra.net!not-for-mail From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:22:01 -0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: <10dnh49$1k7$3@reader2.panix.com> References: <10dfric$2j5ee$1@dont-email.me> <10dgc4a$2nvpo$1@dont-email.me> <10dgfeu$cii$1@reader2.panix.com> <10dmjj5$e6ef$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:22:01 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader2.panix.com; posting-host="spitfire.i.gajendra.net:166.84.136.80"; logging-data="1671"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.vms:377993 In article <10dmjj5$e6ef$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Froble wrote: >On 10/24/2025 2:10 PM, Dan Cross wrote: >> In article <10dgc4a$2nvpo$1@dont-email.me>, >> Simon Clubley wrote: >>> On 2025-10-24, Subcommandante XDelta wrote: >>>> Carry on, regardless. >>>> >>>> Careful with those Dongles, Eugene... >>>> >>>> How Charon-AXP Saved a Nuclear Power Plant from Shutdown >>>> >>>> https://www.stromasys.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Tai_Power_vax_case_study_20200622_A4.pdf >>> >>> The word "VMS" is not mentioned once in that document. >>> >>> Given the obvious real-time monitoring requirements, how do we know this >>> is not some specialised RTOS ? It could also be some other general purpose OS. >> >> I think that's unlikely. >> >> My read of this was that the Alpha system was used as the >> backend for the data collection pipeline, probably handling >> overall management of the monitoring data, and possibly hosting >> some analysis. That is, the Alphas are the repository of >> whatever information is being generated by realtime monitoring >> systems, but not taking that data themselves. >> >> My guess would be that they are/were running VMS, but who knows? > >It is amusing the hoops some are attempting to jump thru to declare it isn't >VMS, when is sure seems VMS is the most likely environment. > >:-) Sure seems that way. There are enough breadcrumbs to follow in the document: when they started mentioning IT staff training and so on, an RTOS seemed a lot less likely. And if were something Unix-y, they could _probably_ port to something else that was similarly Unix-y, but, that doc left out a lot of details, so I can see why folks want to speculate. - Dan C.