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Re: Win7 client -> eCS share

From "Doug Bissett" <dougb007!SPAM@telus.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.os2.networking.misc
Subject Re: Win7 client -> eCS share
Date 2013-12-25 22:01 +0000
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 17:47:04 UTC, Marcel Mller 
<news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> wrote:

> On 25.12.13 17.41, Doug Bissett wrote:
> > It works fine, when eCS is running the SAMBA server.
> 
> Hmm, I never got anything useful out of samba on the eCS machines. The 
> client required Netdrive (which I do not have, do not like and do not 
> want) and it crashed all the time. EAs did not work correctly too. IBM 
> Peer in contrast has it's restrictions, but within that it is very reliable.

The latest SAMBA seems to have fixed most of the problems that older 
versions had, although I think that EAs are restricted to 32K, while 
OS/2 wil use 64K EAs.  The only place where EAs are essential is for 
the desktop, I have always found that the rest of them will be 
recreated, if the program thinks they are needed.

The client needs either netdrive, or EVFS (look for EVFS.IFS), which 
is part of eCS (perhaps not the ancient version that you have, I don't
remember). The client is also completely separate from the SAMBA 
server, and it can be used at the same time as the old NETBIOS over 
TCP/IP.

You can also run SAMBA server, along side of PEER, as long as you use 
NETBIOS, and not NETBIOS over TCP/IP. I am not sure what complications
you might run into, if you do that, and not all devices will pass the 
netbios packets.

> So even if the server most likely does not share this problems I need to 
> disable IBM Peer to get the samba server up. So I need the client too to 
> use the server.

There is a way to use PEER with a SAMBA server (not on the same 
machine), but I don't recommend it.

> 
> > The hard part is trying to figure out which parts of SAMBA that you
> > need.
> 
> ?
> 
> > I use these:
> >
> >> ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/samba/server/samba-1-1-4-804.wpi
> >
> >> ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/samba/server/rxlib4smb.wpi
> >
> > and this, IF you don't use RPM/YUM:
> >
> >> ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/samba/server/rpmsubset4smb.zip
> >
> > You may need other prereqs, if your system is not up to date.
> 
> Well, I should have mentioned that is is eCS 1.05 - not that up to date. 
> But beyond that recent libraries like libc065 should be in place.

That is the update that I mean. You also need the freely available 
stuff that is listed near the top of the SAMBA SVN page.

> But before I go this way I need to solve the client issue and test the 
> it well.

If you have, or can get, EVFS.IFS (it is a sub set of NETDRIVE), you 
should be able to get the client, and use it with your current PEER 
network. If that will work, you can use that to log onto your Win 7 
machines, but the Win 7 machines still can't log onto your PEER 
machines.

> 
> Marcel

I never got Win7 Home to log onto the old PEER network, even after 
doing a LOT of messing around. I think I got Win 7 PRO to do it, at 
one point, but that didn't solve the problem with Win 7 Home, or 
transfering files larger than 2 GB. SAMBA is the easy way to do it.

There is also the old NETBEUI support for windows. I have heard that 
it can be installed on Win 7, but I never tried it. I got it at:

> http://www.88watts.net/download/netbeui.zip

I am pretty sure that it is still there. Of course, you would need to 
install NETBIOS on your OS/2 machines for that to work (you can have 
both NETBIOS, and NETBIOS over TCP/IP), and you may have problems with
other devices (routers, or wireless) not passing netbios packets.

HTH...
-- 
From the eComStation of Doug Bissett
dougb007 at telus dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)

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Win7 client -> eCS share Marcel Müller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2013-12-25 09:33 +0100
  Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "Jose Vicente" <no_quiero_spam@timofonica.net> - 2013-12-25 09:55 +0000
    Re: Win7 client -> eCS share Marcel Müller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2013-12-25 18:47 +0100
  Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "Doug Bissett" <dougb007!SPAM@telus.net> - 2013-12-25 16:41 +0000
    Re: Win7 client -> eCS share Marcel Müller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2013-12-25 18:47 +0100
      Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "ivan" <ivanjt@free.fr> - 2013-12-25 19:18 +0000
        Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "Doug Bissett" <dougb007!SPAM@telus.net> - 2013-12-25 22:01 +0000
          Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "ivan" <ivanjt@free.fr> - 2013-12-26 23:33 +0000
        Re: Win7 client -> eCS share Peter Brown <losepeteSPAM-ME-NOT@ntlworld.com> - 2013-12-26 02:26 +0000
      Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "Doug Bissett" <dougb007!SPAM@telus.net> - 2013-12-25 22:01 +0000
        Re: Win7 client -> eCS share Marcel Müller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2013-12-26 00:49 +0100
          Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "Doug Bissett" <dougb007!SPAM@telus.net> - 2013-12-26 20:04 +0000
            Re: Win7 client -> eCS share Marcel Müller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2013-12-26 22:05 +0100
              Re: Win7 client -> eCS share "Doug Bissett" <dougb007!SPAM@telus.net> - 2013-12-28 06:24 +0000

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