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Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs

From Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.setup
Subject Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs
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Date 2016-03-17 19:14 +0100
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On Thursday 17 Mar 2016 18:30, Charles T. Smith conveyed the following 
to comp.os.linux.setup...

> It's true that systemd is a continual frustration for me, and
> I'd like people to understand that linux is no longer diffuse
> but is now directed in a direction over which the user body
> has very little insight.

There are plenty of distributions that don't use systemd, or at least, 
not by default.  A few examples follow...:

  - PCLinuxOS still uses sysvinit.

  - Slackware uses the BSD init system, and is now testing Gentoo's
    eudev as a replacement for udev, given that the upstream udev
    developers have hinted at that udev will not be functional without
    systemd anymore in the foreseeable future.

  - Gentoo uses its own openrc (in combination with eudev) by default.
    openrc is a wrapper (written in C) around sysvinit and supports many
    of the touted features of systemd, such as parallel startups and
    support for control groups.  systemd is however supported in Gentoo,
    and even mandatory for people seeking to use GNOME ─ this, because
    systemd has deliberately been made into a hard dependency of GNOME
    as per Lennart Poettering's request.

  - Manjaro is a fork of Arch Linux which also uses eudev and (I
    believe) sysvinit.

  - Devuan is a fork of Debian which does not use systemd.  I'm not
    sure which init system they're using, but it might be openrc, a
    plain vanilla sysvinit, or Ubuntu's (now abandoned) Upstart.

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= Aragorn =

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power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 20:16 +0000
  Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 11:41 +0000
    Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:56 +0000
      Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 15:43 +0000
        UNIX sessions (was: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2016-03-18 13:34 +0000
          Re: UNIX sessions The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-18 13:51 +0000
  Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2016-03-17 14:11 +0000
    Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 14:55 +0000
  Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-03-17 08:19 -0700
    Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:51 +0000
      Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 16:02 +0000
        Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:30 +0000
          Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 16:50 +0000
            Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 16:55 +0000
              Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-03-17 10:09 -0700
                Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 19:20 +0000
              Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-18 12:24 +0000
                Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:58 +0000
                Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-18 13:34 +0000
      Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 16:02 +0000
        Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-03-17 16:47 +0000
          Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 19:15 +0000
            Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-18 12:28 +0000
        Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-18 12:21 +0000
    Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 15:58 +0000
      Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-03-17 10:17 -0700
        Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:30 +0000
          Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-03-17 19:14 +0100
          Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 19:22 +0000
  Re: power button shutdown from welcome screen w/o dialogs Mark <mcm@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2016-03-17 19:01 +0000

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