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On 09/29/2021 08:34 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 29/09/2021 15:15, rbowman wrote:
>> On 09/29/2021 07:13 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 29/09/2021 12:31, chrisv wrote:
>>>> Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So Commodore 64, it looks like, was already "vintage" in 1989. After I
>>>>> acquired the Commodores I began frequenting a computer assignment
>>>>> store
>>>>> that sold people's old and new stuff and kept 30% of the money and
>>>>> gave
>>>>> 70% to owners. It was a heaven for "vintage" parts, systems, manuals,
>>>>> books, everything.
>>>>
>>>> Cool!
>>>>
>>>>> I had found a funky half-finished C manual there in
>>>>> German coming with two disks for Commodore. That's how I learned C. In
>>>>> school everybody used Fortran in science depts and PL-1 in business
>>>>> depts.
>>>>
>>>> My college programming classes used Pascal.  EE curriculum.
>>>>
>>> The only language I was ever taught, was FORTRAN
>>>
>>>
>>> I taught myself BASIC, ASSEMBLER, C, PHP, JavaScript, SQL..a smattering
>>> of PASCAL, C++, Shell. Rust looks like the next one to look at, if I
>>> have time.
>>
>> FORTRAN was the only one I was formally taught in '65. BASIC was used
>> at Dartmouth in '64 but that was about it.  My wife went to SUNY
>> Albany before transferring to a real school. They had a CDC so she
>> learned some weird language that isn't extant.
>>
> yes. My university chums who spent hours in the computer labs did ALGOL.
> That vanished, but it set the standard for all the block structured
> procedural languages that came after.
>
> then there are a whole slew of 'academic' languages that everyone
> declared to be ExtremelyImportant, but which have vanished without
> trace. Lisp. Modula 2. Pascal, Forth.
>
> Wiki lists over 100 languages - but really I cant think of more than 10
> that are seen on job adverts
>

Forth is still around and turns up in the damnedest places.

Ada is still around, or so I'm told.  Back when the Boston Sunday Globe 
was the place to go for job ads I would get a kick out of 'Ada 
programmer, 3 years of experience required' before there was a working 
Ada compiler let alone anyone using it.

I did a phone interview with a defense firm in San Diego and they flew 
me out for a face to face. The first question was 'Do you know <insert 
obscure DoD language>?' to which I answered no. Interview over.

I was heart broken. January in Boston and they flew me out to San Diego 
for a 15 minute interview leaving me to spend the rest of the day 
walking around in the sunshine.

The only part that sucked was the delay leaving O'Hare on the way back. 
It was 17 below and one of the service vehicles froze to the plane.

That adventure was your tax dollars at work.