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Re: Adding Secure Passwords to Linux

From	Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.security
Subject	Re: Adding Secure Passwords to Linux
Date	2023-06-16 11:18 +0000
Organization	To protect and to server
Message-ID	<IG4WZR6wz+YDZ=BES@bongo-ra.co> (permalink)
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 08:29:04 +0100
Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
> > A more "objective" criterion is electricity consumption. So how many
> > watts of electricity would it take to do 10^18 SHA256 hashes per second ?
> 
> Money seems more objective to me, given that’s the resource someone has
> to actually spend to recover a password, and to measure against the
> value of the password. There is zero point spending $1M (whether
> directly on power, or indirecly as cloud GPU rental) to recover a
> password that you can only exploit for $1000 of value.

I meant objective in the sense that electricity consumption is only dependent
on technology and physics whereas monetary value also introduces a vast new
parameter which is economic factors which depends on politics. As for "zero
point" , people can have other motivations for wanting to break into someone's
computer rather than (just) money.

-- 
vlaho.ninja/prog

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              Re: Adding Secure Passwords to Linux Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 11:18 +0000
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