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| Started by | "anon" <anon@anon.com> |
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| First post | 2019-08-29 08:34 -0500 |
| Last post | 2019-09-17 01:25 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 355 — 52 participants |
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Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "anon" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-08-29 08:34 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-08-29 10:13 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-29 12:40 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-29 14:04 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-29 15:41 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-08-29 22:34 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-30 08:05 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Rabid Robot <rabid@rob.ot> - 2019-08-30 10:05 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-15 15:04 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure AnonLinuxUser <Anon@Linuxusers.net> - 2019-09-15 16:20 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-09-15 18:26 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-09-15 22:39 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-09-15 22:43 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-09-16 08:26 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure AnonLinuxUser <Anon@Linuxusers.net> - 2019-09-16 08:52 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-09-16 11:28 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-16 17:32 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure AnonLinuxUser <Anon@Linuxusers.net> - 2019-09-16 11:10 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2019-09-19 15:26 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure AnonLinuxUser <Anon@Linuxusers.net> - 2019-09-19 08:29 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-09-17 05:05 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure AnonLinuxUser <Anon@Linuxusers.net> - 2019-09-17 12:48 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-09-19 10:35 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure AnonLinuxUser <Anon@Linuxusers.net> - 2019-09-19 08:31 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2020-03-25 03:14 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-25 13:13 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-25 20:57 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-25 16:25 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-26 00:36 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-03-26 01:31 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-03-25 23:02 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2020-03-26 04:34 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-03-26 00:30 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2020-03-26 07:45 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2020-03-26 07:47 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-26 08:18 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-26 09:57 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-26 12:23 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 04:35 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 13:18 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-26 21:44 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 01:42 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 19:28 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-26 19:55 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 22:21 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-26 22:49 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 12:46 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-27 13:01 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 16:15 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 17:48 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 12:47 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-03-27 21:00 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 22:18 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 16:16 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-26 12:22 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2020-03-27 03:10 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-03-26 07:33 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 13:17 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-26 21:32 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-26 21:52 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 16:05 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-26 23:45 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 19:29 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-27 08:06 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 12:48 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 03:04 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 22:25 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 05:47 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "lucent tpm" <telco@example.com> - 2020-03-27 16:53 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 18:05 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 17:19 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-27 08:03 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 12:50 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-03-27 06:59 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-27 12:52 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 21:54 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-29 22:46 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 01:34 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-29 19:14 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-30 04:17 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2020-04-03 21:26 +1100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-03 20:04 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2020-04-04 21:43 +1100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 05:53 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-04 11:48 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2020-04-05 21:09 +1000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-05 11:10 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 06:50 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-30 10:58 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-30 06:59 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Info <info@perfumeshotsale.com> - 2020-03-30 08:06 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-03-30 12:00 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-29 22:37 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-30 02:11 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-29 19:15 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-30 04:05 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 04:29 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 06:30 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-03-30 01:52 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Alogsa <alogsa.logistica@alogsalogistica.com> - 2020-03-30 08:05 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-03-30 11:31 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-30 13:01 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-03-30 11:05 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-03-30 09:26 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-30 17:51 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-03-30 12:03 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-31 00:06 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-03-31 08:55 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-31 03:18 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-31 04:16 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-31 04:11 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-31 04:45 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-03-31 08:03 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-31 15:26 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-31 18:55 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 05:59 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 06:30 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-30 07:28 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Contact <contact@larryshopping.com> - 2020-04-01 01:21 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 03:46 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 04:16 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-27 14:01 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 14:16 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-29 22:36 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 01:44 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-29 19:17 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 04:19 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-29 20:41 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 09:16 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@sympatico.ca> - 2020-03-30 11:47 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 13:12 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-30 19:59 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 20:53 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-30 21:57 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-30 19:19 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 13:13 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-31 05:04 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-31 11:21 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-31 17:25 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-30 20:01 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 20:53 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-30 21:59 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-03-31 13:35 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-31 12:02 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-31 11:25 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-03-31 17:13 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-31 12:09 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-03-31 18:51 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-31 13:44 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-01 13:37 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-12 10:35 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-13 02:22 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-12 22:50 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 09:41 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-04-13 07:51 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-13 11:45 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2020-04-13 14:11 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure mGhost <mGhost@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 15:50 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 18:21 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure mGhost <mGhost@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 17:44 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-04-13 13:58 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure mGhost <mGhost@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 18:15 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-04-13 14:01 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 20:40 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2020-04-13 22:56 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-15 12:06 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-15 11:36 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2020-04-16 11:22 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 11:20 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-04-16 09:08 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 14:50 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-04-16 13:49 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-04-16 13:16 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 20:56 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-04-17 01:43 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-04-16 15:27 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-18 14:56 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure felix@palmen-it.de (Felix Palmen) - 2020-04-16 17:44 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-16 16:26 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-04-16 12:37 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-04-13 14:29 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-04-14 08:18 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:50 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-04-15 09:59 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-13 09:39 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-13 19:44 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-14 00:16 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 03:39 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-13 21:59 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-14 11:24 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:35 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-13 22:04 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:47 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-14 14:15 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 15:05 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-15 11:43 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-16 13:31 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-14 13:09 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-04-14 12:20 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-14 05:47 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 12:48 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-14 21:10 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-14 23:54 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-15 01:06 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-15 13:39 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-04-14 08:40 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-01 09:37 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-01 08:55 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-01 11:13 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-01 20:40 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-31 21:38 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-01 13:39 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-04-01 13:51 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-01 20:42 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-02 07:42 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-02 09:19 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-02 13:24 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-02 12:10 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-02 21:56 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-04-03 08:42 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-03 08:05 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-03 09:13 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-03 08:15 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2020-04-04 01:16 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2020-04-03 05:24 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-03 09:20 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-01 17:50 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-04-02 03:15 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2020-04-02 13:42 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@cfaj.ca> - 2020-04-01 17:32 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-04-01 17:49 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-02 07:44 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-04-02 07:12 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-04-03 08:02 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-04-12 10:39 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-04-02 18:30 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 07:16 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-30 09:13 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 09:19 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-30 09:29 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-03-30 12:20 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-03-30 12:35 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 13:14 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-30 18:52 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-03-30 07:01 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-30 09:58 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-30 09:21 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 19:01 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-26 09:52 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-26 13:46 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-03-26 07:51 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-03-26 10:34 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-26 17:36 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-26 21:49 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-03-27 14:30 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-27 21:31 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-27 15:44 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-27 23:19 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-27 16:56 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-28 05:10 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-27 22:46 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-28 20:22 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-28 16:15 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-29 00:11 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-03-28 12:32 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2020-03-28 10:18 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-28 10:52 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-27 12:59 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-27 21:31 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2020-03-27 15:48 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-03-27 22:03 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 00:23 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 19:29 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-27 14:07 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2020-03-27 15:42 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 17:35 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 18:20 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-30 08:41 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Contact <contact@rockygoods.com> - 2020-03-30 11:47 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-26 13:54 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-26 15:44 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-26 12:19 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-26 13:46 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-26 12:55 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-03-26 15:50 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-03-26 16:05 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 00:02 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 01:29 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-26 17:57 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-26 21:56 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-03-26 21:13 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-27 00:13 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 16:08 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-26 23:20 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> - 2020-03-26 19:31 -0600
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-03-26 23:47 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2020-03-27 01:15 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-09-03 11:33 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-09-03 09:45 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-09-03 13:21 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-09-04 18:52 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-09-04 15:10 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-09-04 18:23 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-04 21:14 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-09-04 20:35 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-04 21:37 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-09-04 16:58 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-05 09:09 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Rabid Robot <rabid@rob.ot> - 2019-09-04 16:45 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-15 15:07 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-15 15:06 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-09-15 22:32 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Rabid Robot <rabid@rob.ot> - 2019-08-29 17:07 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-30 12:31 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-08-30 17:25 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-30 18:46 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-31 04:08 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-08-31 03:34 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-31 10:02 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-31 10:41 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-08-31 16:15 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-08-31 13:34 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-31 13:59 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-08-31 21:36 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-09-01 09:59 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-09-01 14:44 -0400
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-15 15:01 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-08-29 12:34 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-16 20:05 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-08-29 21:40 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-29 16:03 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-08-30 00:59 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-16 20:11 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2019-09-17 05:42 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2019-08-30 00:34 +0200
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2019-08-30 13:41 +0100
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-08-29 20:02 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-29 15:43 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-29 16:12 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2019-08-29 21:29 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-08-30 14:02 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2019-08-29 21:47 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-30 01:03 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2019-08-31 00:52 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-31 11:17 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2019-09-01 00:16 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2019-08-31 01:03 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-08-31 10:56 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-08-31 11:37 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-08-31 11:30 +0000
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> - 2019-09-16 20:20 -0700
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-09-17 01:45 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from failure "anon" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-09-15 17:31 -0500
Re: Unix at 50 How the OS that powered smartphones started from robert.wolfe@wildcat.uuhec.net (Robert Wolfe) - 2019-09-17 01:25 +0000
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-26 16:05 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29357 |
On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: >> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: >>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to >>>>>>> do... >>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to maybe be >>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically >>>>>>> the same. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of >>>>>> course). >>>>> >>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could >>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer >>>>> company. >>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using >>>>> Linux on >>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. >>>>> >>>> >>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for >>>> a PC. >>> >>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. >>> >> >> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun >> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a >> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. >> >> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. >> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > > No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > > I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > Windows machines instead. > > Ah, that could have been that then. Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend then and just went down the tubes.
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| From | "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> |
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| Date | 2020-03-26 23:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <9822d3ac1b19e5777a65b596d0852e1f@remailer.privacy.at> |
| In reply to | #29361 |
In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: > >> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: > >>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: > >>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to > >>>>>>> do... > >>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC.Ā Then the suggestion was to maybe be > >>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job.Ā Tho not all of linux is identically > >>>>>>> the same. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of > >>>>>> course). > >>>>> > >>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could > >>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer > >>>>> company. > >>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using > >>>>> Linux on > >>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for > >>>> a PC. > >>> > >>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. > >>> > >> > >> I was a little lad then.Ā Later I saw some history that Sun > >> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a > >> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. > >> > >> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. > >> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > > > > No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > > > > I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > > UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > > Windows machines instead. > > > > > Ah, that could have been that then. > Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > then and just went down the tubes.
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-26 19:29 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5jkt3$qfn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29364 |
On 3/26/20 4:45 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >> >> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: >>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: >>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to >>>>>>>>> do... >>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to maybe be >>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically >>>>>>>>> the same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of >>>>>>>> course). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could >>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer >>>>>>> company. >>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using >>>>>>> Linux on >>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for >>>>>> a PC. >>>>> >>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun >>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a >>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. >>>> >>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. >>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. >>> >>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. >>> >>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as >>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using >>> Windows machines instead. >>> >>> >> Ah, that could have been that then. >> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or >> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that >> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where >> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. >> >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend >> then and just went down the tubes. > Your message didn't get transmitted.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 08:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <r5kc5k$58k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29373 |
On 27/03/2020 01:29, anonlinuxuser wrote: > On 3/26/20 4:45 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: >> In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> >> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>> >>> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: >>>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: >>>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally >>>>>>>>>> intended to >>>>>>>>>> do... >>>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to >>>>>>>>>> maybe be >>>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically >>>>>>>>>> the same. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of >>>>>>>>> course). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I >>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer >>>>>>>> company. >>>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using >>>>>>>> Linux on >>>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a >>>>>>>> hobby. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for >>>>>>> a PC. >>>>>> >>>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun >>>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a >>>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered >>>>> free. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX >>>>> killer. >>>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. >>>> >>>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. >>>> >>>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as >>>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using >>>> Windows machines instead. >>>> >>>> >>> Ah, that could have been that then. >>> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or >>> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that >>> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where >>> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. >>> >>> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others >>> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend >>> then and just went down the tubes. >> > > Your message didn't get transmitted. > Even those who switched to Unix didn't necessarily last. The problem was that PC processing power and RAM and disk simply swamped the minicomputer market. And even the mainframe market. IBM saw the writing on the wall and got out of hardware mostly. Others did not. -- “It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” Thomas Sowell
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 12:48 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5lhqp$cmp$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29387 |
On 3/27/20 2:06 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/03/2020 01:29, anonlinuxuser wrote: >> On 3/26/20 4:45 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: >>> In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> >>> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: >>>>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: >>>>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally >>>>>>>>>>> intended to >>>>>>>>>>> do... >>>>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to >>>>>>>>>>> maybe be >>>>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically >>>>>>>>>>> the same. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of >>>>>>>>>> course). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer >>>>>>>>> company. >>>>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using >>>>>>>>> Linux on >>>>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a >>>>>>>>> hobby. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for >>>>>>>> a PC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun >>>>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a >>>>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was >>>>>> offered free. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX >>>>>> killer. >>>>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. >>>>> >>>>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. >>>>> >>>>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as >>>>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using >>>>> Windows machines instead. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Ah, that could have been that then. >>>> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or >>>> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that >>>> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see >>>> where >>>> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. >>>> >>>> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and >>>> others >>>> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend >>>> then and just went down the tubes. >>> >> >> Your message didn't get transmitted. >> > Even those who switched to Unix didn't necessarily last. The problem was > that PC processing power and RAM and disk simply swamped the > minicomputer market. And even the mainframe market. > > IBM saw the writing on the wall and got out of hardware mostly. Others > did not. > That is basically my conclusions as well after digging in a bit more.
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| From | "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 03:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <b9b45ea2c723114ea978c30576589a25@remailer.privacy.at> |
| In reply to | #29361 |
In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: > >> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: > >>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: > >>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to > >>>>>>> do... > >>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to maybe be > >>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically > >>>>>>> the same. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of > >>>>>> course). > >>>>> > >>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could > >>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer > >>>>> company. > >>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using > >>>>> Linux on > >>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for > >>>> a PC. > >>> > >>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. > >>> > >> > >> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun > >> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a > >> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. > >> > >> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. > >> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > > > > No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > > > > I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > > UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > > Windows machines instead. > > > > > Ah, that could have been that then. > Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. A VAX 8840 would kick the poop out of most systems at that time and cost around $1.6 million by the time all was said and done. IBM systems with the same performance could cost $12-20 million depending on features and DASD capacity. > A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > then and just went down the tubes. DG got bought by EMC. They had some good stuff but they were late to the mini market and there was just no way for them to catch up. Apollo priced themselves out of the market with rigid licensing and failed to see the mini trucks coming that ran over them. HP bought them, killed the line, and now uses the name for HPC. Sun just plain stunk in terms of performance at the time. Good box, weak I/O, no cheap small customer storage solutions. Servers were reliable. SGI good stuff, some still running today. Lousy marketing.
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-26 22:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5jv7s$ar4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29377 |
On 3/26/20 8:04 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >> >> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: >>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: >>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to >>>>>>>>> do... >>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to maybe be >>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically >>>>>>>>> the same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of >>>>>>>> course). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could >>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer >>>>>>> company. >>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using >>>>>>> Linux on >>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for >>>>>> a PC. >>>>> >>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun >>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a >>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. >>>> >>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. >>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. >>> >>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. >>> >>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as >>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using >>> Windows machines instead. >>> >>> >> Ah, that could have been that then. >> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or >> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that >> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where >> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > A VAX 8840 would kick the poop out of most systems at that time > and cost around $1.6 million by the time all was said and done. > > IBM systems with the same performance could cost $12-20 million > depending on features and DASD capacity. > >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend >> then and just went down the tubes. > > DG got bought by EMC. They had some good stuff but they were > late to the mini market and there was just no way for them to > catch up. > > Apollo priced themselves out of the market with rigid licensing > and failed to see the mini trucks coming that ran over them. HP > bought them, killed the line, and now uses the name for HPC. > > Sun just plain stunk in terms of performance at the time. Good > box, weak I/O, no cheap small customer storage solutions. > Servers were reliable. > > SGI good stuff, some still running today. Lousy marketing. > Very true, but the SGI sounded a bit way overpriced. I read somewhere someone called solaris slowaris. There was some other thing that my uncle mentioned that you don't see anymore is the wineing and dineing of potential customers. He called it the "Good ol Boys Club".
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 05:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5abf572f4f480ec31794daf5cbdeca6b@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #29383 |
In article <r5jv7s$ar4$1@dont-email.me> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > On 3/26/20 8:04 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > > In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> > > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >> > >> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: > >>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: > >>>>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to > >>>>>>>>> do... > >>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC.Ă‚Â Then the suggestion was to maybe be > >>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job.Ă‚Â Tho not all of linux is identically > >>>>>>>>> the same. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of > >>>>>>>> course). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could > >>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer > >>>>>>> company. > >>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using > >>>>>>> Linux on > >>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for > >>>>>> a PC. > >>>>> > >>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I was a little lad then.Ă‚Â Later I saw some history that Sun > >>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a > >>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. > >>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > >>> > >>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > >>> > >>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > >>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > >>> Windows machines instead. > >>> > >>> > >> Ah, that could have been that then. > >> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > >> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > >> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > >> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > > > A VAX 8840 would kick the poop out of most systems at that time > > and cost around $1.6 million by the time all was said and done. > > > > IBM systems with the same performance could cost $12-20 million > > depending on features and DASD capacity. > > > >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > >> then and just went down the tubes. > > > > DG got bought by EMC. They had some good stuff but they were > > late to the mini market and there was just no way for them to > > catch up. > > > > Apollo priced themselves out of the market with rigid licensing > > and failed to see the mini trucks coming that ran over them. HP > > bought them, killed the line, and now uses the name for HPC. > > > > Sun just plain stunk in terms of performance at the time. Good > > box, weak I/O, no cheap small customer storage solutions. > > Servers were reliable. > > > > SGI good stuff, some still running today. Lousy marketing. > > > > Very true, but the SGI sounded a bit way overpriced. > I read somewhere someone called solaris slowaris. > > There was some other thing that my uncle mentioned that you don't see > anymore is the wineing and dineing of potential customers. > He called it the "Good ol Boys Club".
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| From | "lucent tpm" <telco@example.com> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 16:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <f1c2bf6cebed0474c23c3a6c05293cc6@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #29383 |
In article <r5jv7s$ar4$1@dont-email.me> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > On 3/26/20 8:04 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > > In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> > > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >> > >> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: > >>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: > >>>>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to > >>>>>>>>> do... > >>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to maybe be > >>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically > >>>>>>>>> the same. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of > >>>>>>>> course). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could > >>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer > >>>>>>> company. > >>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using > >>>>>>> Linux on > >>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for > >>>>>> a PC. > >>>>> > >>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun > >>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a > >>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. > >>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > >>> > >>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > >>> > >>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > >>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > >>> Windows machines instead. > >>> > >>> > >> Ah, that could have been that then. > >> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > >> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > >> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > >> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > > > A VAX 8840 would kick the poop out of most systems at that time > > and cost around $1.6 million by the time all was said and done. > > > > IBM systems with the same performance could cost $12-20 million > > depending on features and DASD capacity. > > > >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > >> then and just went down the tubes. > > > > DG got bought by EMC. They had some good stuff but they were > > late to the mini market and there was just no way for them to > > catch up. > > > > Apollo priced themselves out of the market with rigid licensing > > and failed to see the mini trucks coming that ran over them. HP > > bought them, killed the line, and now uses the name for HPC. > > > > Sun just plain stunk in terms of performance at the time. Good > > box, weak I/O, no cheap small customer storage solutions. > > Servers were reliable. > > > > SGI good stuff, some still running today. Lousy marketing. > > > > Very true, but the SGI sounded a bit way overpriced. > I read somewhere someone called solaris slowaris. > > There was some other thing that my uncle mentioned that you don't see > anymore is the wineing and dineing of potential customers. > He called it the "Good ol Boys Club". Ha! Your uncle was right. Went to a lot of football games on free dimes.
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 18:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <a9d7efcd2d89a570f7794c05b8eb4d9b@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #29400 |
In article <f1c2bf6cebed0474c23c3a6c05293cc6@dizum.com> "lucent tpm" <telco@example.com> wrote: > > In article <r5jv7s$ar4$1@dont-email.me> > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > > > On 3/26/20 8:04 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > > > In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> > > > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > >>> On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: > > >>>> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > > >>>>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > >>>>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > >>>>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: > > >>>>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: > > >>>>>>>> <snip> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to > > >>>>>>>>> do... > > >>>>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC.Ă‚Â Then the suggestion was to maybe be > > >>>>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job.Ă‚Â Tho not all of linux is identically > > >>>>>>>>> the same. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of > > >>>>>>>> course). > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could > > >>>>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer > > >>>>>>> company. > > >>>>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using > > >>>>>>> Linux on > > >>>>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for > > >>>>>> a PC. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I was a little lad then.Ă‚Â Later I saw some history that Sun > > >>>> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a > > >>>> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. > > >>>> > > >>>> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. > > >>>> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > > >>> > > >>> No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > > >>> > > >>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > > >>> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > > >>> Windows machines instead. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Ah, that could have been that then. > > >> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > > >> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > > >> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > > >> Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > > > > > A VAX 8840 would kick the poop out of most systems at that time > > > and cost around $1.6 million by the time all was said and done. > > > > > > IBM systems with the same performance could cost $12-20 million > > > depending on features and DASD capacity. > > > > > >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > > >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > > >> then and just went down the tubes. > > > > > > DG got bought by EMC. They had some good stuff but they were > > > late to the mini market and there was just no way for them to > > > catch up. > > > > > > Apollo priced themselves out of the market with rigid licensing > > > and failed to see the mini trucks coming that ran over them. HP > > > bought them, killed the line, and now uses the name for HPC. > > > > > > Sun just plain stunk in terms of performance at the time. Good > > > box, weak I/O, no cheap small customer storage solutions. > > > Servers were reliable. > > > > > > SGI good stuff, some still running today. Lousy marketing. > > > > > > > Very true, but the SGI sounded a bit way overpriced. > > I read somewhere someone called solaris slowaris. > > > > There was some other thing that my uncle mentioned that you don't see > > anymore is the wineing and dineing of potential customers. > > He called it the "Good ol Boys Club". > > Ha! Your uncle was right. Went to a lot of football games on > free dimes.
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 17:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7434f7e7a208e2c11b4c4dd589bcc10c@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #29377 |
In article <b9b45ea2c723114ea978c30576589a25@remailer.privacy.at> "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote: > > > In article <r5j8ve$gqs$1@dont-email.me> > anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > > > On 3/26/20 2:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > > On 26/03/2020 20.17, anonlinuxuser wrote: > > >> On 3/26/20 2:18 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > > >>> On 2020-03-25, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > >>>> On 3/25/20 1:57 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > >>>>> On 25/03/2020 11.14, Johann Beretta wrote: > > >>>>>> On 9/15/19 3:20 PM, AnonLinuxUser wrote: > > >>>>>> <snip> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> After looking around, I found what Linux was originally intended to > > >>>>>>> do... > > >>>>>>> Learn UNIX for free on a PC. Then the suggestion was to maybe be > > >>>>>>> qualified for a UNIX job. Tho not all of linux is identically > > >>>>>>> the same. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Your comparison itself is false (although not deliberately of > > >>>>>> course). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It is true that I installed Linux initially to learn Unix, as I could > > >>>>> not pay a Unix system. Unix (and Linux) was used by my employer > > >>>>> company. > > >>>>> Perhaps on summer 1998. Seeing that a serious company was using > > >>>>> Linux on > > >>>>> important tasks told me that Linux was a serious thing, not a hobby. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> According to history, UNIX back in 1992 or so, cost about $1500 for > > >>>> a PC. > > >>> > > >>> That was SCO Unix. I had it. > > >>> > > >> > > >> I was a little lad then. Later I saw some history that Sun > > >> Microsystems started around that time of charging around $1200 for a > > >> PC and then lowered their price to $800,... and then it was offered free. > > >> > > >> Maybe back in 1995 old Ballmer was right calling win95 as a UNIX killer. > > >> The only survivor now is Linux and Apple. > > > > > > No, he wasn't. What killed UNIX was Linux, not Windows. > > > > > > I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as > > > UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using > > > Windows machines instead. > > > > > > > > Ah, that could have been that then. > > Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > > more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > > same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > > Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > A VAX 8840 would kick the poop out of most systems at that time > and cost around $1.6 million by the time all was said and done. > > IBM systems with the same performance could cost $12-20 million > depending on features and DASD capacity. > > > A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > > just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > > then and just went down the tubes. > > DG got bought by EMC. They had some good stuff but they were > late to the mini market and there was just no way for them to > catch up. > > Apollo priced themselves out of the market with rigid licensing > and failed to see the mini trucks coming that ran over them. HP > bought them, killed the line, and now uses the name for HPC. > > Sun just plain stunk in terms of performance at the time. Good > box, weak I/O, no cheap small customer storage solutions. > Servers were reliable. > > SGI good stuff, some still running today. Lousy marketing. Something else to consider. With the exception of DEC & Sun, the other platforms lacked a decent interface for data exchanges with dissimilar systems.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 08:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <r5kc08$58k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29361 |
On 26/03/2020 22:05, anonlinuxuser wrote: >> >> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing as >> UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using >> Windows machines instead. >> >> > Ah, that could have been that then. > Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or > more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that > same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see where > Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. > > A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > then and just went down the tubes. years ago I was asked to add email capability to 'our new IBM' which was running IBMs then unix offering. The customer pointed to a chest freezer covered in glue* - "that's the 21 year old system 38 it's replacing". "It" was a PC minitower. Apparently it could run all the old cobol and rpg quite adequately... *the business was bookbinding. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 12:50 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5lhuc$cmp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29386 |
On 3/27/20 2:03 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 26/03/2020 22:05, anonlinuxuser wrote: >>> >>> I saw PCs deployed in production running Linux doing the same thing >>> as UNIX machines priced a hundred times more. No one thought of using >>> Windows machines instead. >>> >>> >> Ah, that could have been that then. >> Looking back from old articles, the old VAXes ran around $250,000 or >> more, the SGI machines ran around $50,000, Sun systems ran around that >> same price. Average home user couldn't afford that. So, I do see >> where Linux could have killed off UNIX vendors. >> >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and >> others just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the >> trend then and just went down the tubes. > years ago I was asked to add email capability to 'our new IBM' which was > running IBMs then unix offering. The customer pointed to a chest freezer > covered in glue* - "that's the 21 year old system 38 it's replacing". > "It" was a PC minitower. Apparently it could run all the old cobol and > rpg quite adequately... > > *the business was bookbinding. > ROFLMAO!!
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 06:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <65qr7f1lj7ntr09p7h2if5av0o15to4ga6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29361 |
anonlinuxuser wrote: >A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others >just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend >then and just went down the tubes. That's what happens, when you have a bunch of evil businessmen, jockeying for position, trying to gain an unfair advantage over the competition. Why slug it out, and actually work for a living, in a purely competitive market, when there is much bigger money to be made, if you can become the "standard" or the "killer app", or the killer app's "host"? It almost becomes an "all or nothing" game, with big winners and big losers. -- 'Linux "advocates" don't like seeing anyone make money.' - "flatfish", lying shamelessly
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 12:52 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5li0m$cmp$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29391 |
On 3/27/20 5:59 AM, chrisv wrote: > anonlinuxuser wrote: > >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend >> then and just went down the tubes. > > That's what happens, when you have a bunch of evil businessmen, > jockeying for position, trying to gain an unfair advantage over the > competition. > > Why slug it out, and actually work for a living, in a purely > competitive market, when there is much bigger money to be made, if you > can become the "standard" or the "killer app", or the killer app's > "host"? > > It almost becomes an "all or nothing" game, with big winners and big > losers. > Somehow, it sort of looks like "Money is the root of all evil". Anyway, I agree with you there as well.
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| From | "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> |
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| Date | 2020-03-27 21:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <f7631766ee016dfc771297568d6aa55f@remailer.privacy.at> |
| In reply to | #29414 |
PLEASE remove the privacy group from your crosspostings! In article <r5li0m$cmp$5@dont-email.me> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > On 3/27/20 5:59 AM, chrisv wrote: > > anonlinuxuser wrote: > > > >> A lot of the other non-UNIX vendor like Data General, Apollo, and others > >> just disappeared. Some of these companies weren't aware of the trend > >> then and just went down the tubes. > > > > That's what happens, when you have a bunch of evil businessmen, > > jockeying for position, trying to gain an unfair advantage over the > > competition. > > > > Why slug it out, and actually work for a living, in a purely > > competitive market, when there is much bigger money to be made, if you > > can become the "standard" or the "killer app", or the killer app's > > "host"? > > > > It almost becomes an "all or nothing" game, with big winners and big > > losers. > > > > Somehow, it sort of looks like "Money is the root of all evil". > > Anyway, I agree with you there as well.
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2020-03-29 22:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mz9gG.96248$ss3.10264@fx20.am4> |
| In reply to | #29414 |
On 2020-03-27, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > Somehow, it sort of looks like "Money is the root of all evil". I disagree. Money is just convenient way to exchange goods... > > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2020-03-30 01:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <7c773772f38044506a058921b3bb001c@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #29481 |
In article <mz9gG.96248$ss3.10264@fx20.am4> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: > > On 2020-03-27, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > Somehow, it sort of looks like "Money is the root of all evil". > > I disagree. Money is just convenient way to exchange goods... > > > > > > > -- > press any key to continue or any other to quit... > U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec > Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec > Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi > bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> |
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| Date | 2020-03-29 19:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <r5rh5t$2of$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29481 |
On 3/29/20 4:46 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2020-03-27, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: >> Somehow, it sort of looks like "Money is the root of all evil". > > I disagree. Money is just convenient way to exchange goods... >> >> > > I think you haven't looked down the rabbit hole deep enough. Some people, there never is enough money, so they cheat and connive to get more.
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| From | "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> |
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| Date | 2020-03-30 04:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d647efa4ff1db5faafe0feb8801986b5@remailer.privacy.at> |
| In reply to | #29486 |
In article <r5rh5t$2of$1@dont-email.me> anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > > On 3/29/20 4:46 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > > On 2020-03-27, anonlinuxuser <linuxuser@noone.net> wrote: > >> Somehow, it sort of looks like "Money is the root of all evil". > > > > I disagree. Money is just convenient way to exchange goods... > >> > >> > > > > > I think you haven't looked down the rabbit hole deep enough. > Some people, there never is enough money, so they cheat and connive to > get more.
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