Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 19:17:02 +0100 Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <10gmh72$273r2$7@dont-email.me> <10gugbh$19phl$1@dont-email.me> <10gulau$1c5u8$1@dont-email.me> <10h14vm$2caj1$1@dont-email.me> <10h3tc7$3elsi$1@dont-email.me> <10h4eqq$3khj5$1@dont-email.me> <10h4l1m$3mik2$1@dont-email.me> <10h9gr2$tuo4$1@dont-email.me> <10hb0cd$1a5kd$1@dont-email.me> <10hbkqn$1di3b$21@dont-email.me> <10hbo42$1fjnp$7@dont-email.me> <10hjfof$3ukif$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net y//if4zG4DxpajDyifEZIghJWrRNyWH2lc+9ztMeZ0bMuDri1h X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:oOOM2j8eJ7OVNMQZrreKEEUDr2Q= sha256:vPYPQADeo0GeIGkzRvHX9GsrcFOUEd9kuQS+V+BaOJ8= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:79172 On 2025-12-15 02:05, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2025-12-14, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 22:48:15 -0500, c186282 wrote: >> >>> We really need a cheap and sustainable wood substitute, >>> good enough for structural uses, very similar to white or yellow pine >>> boards. >>> >>> This would mostly be "weeds", glued and then heavily hot-pressed. Use >>> as little 'plastic' as possible. The damned "glue" needs to be REALLY >>> good also, similar to the stuff for ship-building. >> >> I think they call it OSB :) I walked by a house under construction today >> and it was skinned with plywood. Maybe the economics are changing. > > That would be a good thing to switch from OSB back to plywood! I had to google that. Oriented strand board (OSB) is a type of engineered wood, formed by adding adhesives and then compressing layers of wood strands (flakes) in specific orientations. It was invented by Armin Elmendorf in California in 1963.[1] OSB may have a rough and variegated surface with the individual strips of around 2.5 cm × 15 cm (1.0 by 5.9 inches), lying unevenly across each other, and is produced in a variety of types and thicknesses. Oriented strand board is sometimes confused with chipboard, a synonym for particle board, whose "chips" are of a size that a lay person would likely describe as "particles". Uses OSB's mechanical properties make it suitable for load-bearing applications in construction.[2] In North America, it is more popular than plywood, commanding 66% of the structural panel market in 2016.[3] The most common uses are as sheathing in walls, flooring, and roof decking. For exterior walls, panels are available with a radiant-barrier layer laminated to one side; this eases installation and increases energy performance of the building envelope. OSB is also used in furniture production. > > Our 1992 "dream house" was sided with OSB. There was a big > lawsuit and settlement. In 1997, the OSB siding was growing > mushrooms in at least one location. The OSB was on its way to > disintegrating on the lower 6-12" of the lower story. Ow :-( > With some help from my father, I replaced the OSB siding with > plywood sheathing, a layer of leatherback, and 8x3/4 bevel edge > clear pre-primed cedar with 6" reveal. Galvanized ring-shanked > nails secured the plywood, and stainless steel ring-shanked nails > secured the cedar. On every surface of cedar I cut, I applied > primer to provide a little more water resistance. Close to a box > of Vulkem caulk finished things off. > > The $8k I got from the settlement 100% replacement helped with > the ~$20k total cost of the project. > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;