Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Nuclear plants. Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:44:14 +0200 Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: <10a6nt3$1c65i$1@dont-email.me> <10a9qlq$25h61$1@dont-email.me> <10ac80j$2nuve$1@dont-email.me> <10ac8lq$2nkob$2@dont-email.me> <68d087a6@news.ausics.net> <10ar9d9$2a86g$1@dont-email.me> <68d1d3e6@news.ausics.net> <10atuhj$2tidd$15@dont-email.me> <68d333e6@news.ausics.net> <8vvdqlxsif.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10b1qqt$3ur87$1@dont-email.me> <10b3cd8$8nn9$7@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net jgxuZEVVLU9/Cw6D6YOVfwTCZw8LRiPDdmv46cReN5TFcsjeMy X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:dJ7/rKyPyG+fvpSI6OnXl0UOmBU= sha256:+s88jS6jkDHUfLhqUJfhcvKBqMoOCFEDYdWW54JkI+0= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <10b3cd8$8nn9$7@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:75229 alt.comp.os.windows-11:24552 On 2025-09-25 14:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/09/2025 12:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-09-25 00:20, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 9/24/25 13:12, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-09-24 01:57, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>> In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 22/09/2025 23:55, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> In particular when the 1960s reactors were built the regulatory >>>>>> framework was very light and governments wanted them built,. The real >>>>>> death knell was Germany, the Green party, proportional >>>>>> representation, >>>>>> and Chernobyl. >>>>> >>>>>  From what I remember "Germany" was largely a reaction to Fukushima. >>>> >>>> Indeed. >>>> >>>> It was my turning point, and that of many people. >>>> >>>> When Chernobyl exploded we though: that's Russian inefficiency. >>>> Communists are corrupt and imbecile. Then years later comes >>>> Fukushima disaster. No communists there to blame. State of the art >>>> "western" industry. >>>> >>> >>>      Fukushima was built in a zone where tidal waves had happened >>> before. >>>      And it was internally SOTA but that was a while back.  The siting o >>> Fukushima was very bad and that is the most I can say about that. >> >> And they did not know that when designing? > > No tidal wave had *ever been experienced* that high. Fukushima was built > to withstand 1 19ft surge which is all that was known in the 1970s when > it was designed. > > Later studies in the 1980s concluded that probably was not high enough, > > > >> They could not have designed the diesel generators to be raised on >> platforms about what could be the water level? > > Expect they didnt. > > Hindsight is a wonderful thing > >> >> The fact is, it was a disaster. We can not trust a new reactor >> anywhere to be safe. >> > > That is alarmist bollocks. The design was safe. The core was contained. > No one died. > I don't know why you need to lie about this. I am not lying. I do not trust any nuclear design to be safe enough, and there are millions of people that think the same. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;