Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix1.panix.com!not-for-mail From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: old linux, newer PC, CD settings Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 21:31:40 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Samani Marions Panyaught NYC-11357-3436-287-USA Message-ID: References: <0uGcnT4xT6gZtGH-nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com> Injection-Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 21:31:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader2.panix.com; posting-host="panix1.panix.com:166.84.1.1"; logging-data="4937"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: tin/2.6.0-20210823 ("Coleburn") (NetBSD/9.3 (amd64)) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:37474 Thanks to all. (REF: Quantian based on Knoppix4. Vostro 3560 laptop) Most recently I tried booting from Voytro on USB and got kernel panic. I prefered Voytro over Rufus because it allows multiple ISOs. I then went back to the DVD and after it couldn't find the file system, I entered "exec KNOPPIX" to which it also gave "kernel panic". So, there is some consistency! Now, I have installed Quantian/Knoppix before but I do not know which version that was. It seems there is only one ISO online, that in arhciveos. Since playing with DVD parameters (UEFI -> Legacy, SATA -> ATA) overcame objections to installing XP (over Win7), I am assuming (perhaps wrongly) that the same will work with KNOPPIX. I did find somewhere that the DVD is /dev/sr0 and will play with that next eg home=/dev/sr0/KNOPPIX.img or Quantian.iso The quantian web site gives a bootfrom knoppix command that isn't on the cheatcodes But that is where I got sr0 from In by 28A.I873 <28A.I873@noabzba.net> on Sat, 04 Mar 2023 01:48:44 we perused: *+- In theory you use the Knoppix Installer and pick *+- a completely new stretch of disk space to install *+- the system. SOMETIMES this involves using something *+- like gparted to CREATE the partition ahead of time *+- so Knoppix will have something it can SEE as the *+- install point rather than trying to create it de-novo. Yes, I used GParted to set up DOS,XP, Extended (ext4,linux-swap,fat32-data) partitions (I'm wondering if someday I may want Android and DEC20 partitions or if I'm just being foolish) *+- May I also suggest VMs ? You can have The Experience *+- without a lot of the (occasionally dangerous) complications. *+- KVM is pretty good, but VirtualBox is much easier to *+- deal with. I have a CP/M-86 machine in VirtualBox and *+- it works as-advertised. VMs? I know KVM as the switch that lets me use the same Keyboard-Video-Mouse on several machines. I have used DOSBox from Android and Linpus with some satisfaction. (Off Topic, apparently DOS Mathematica doesn't work with DOSBOX) *+- WORST case ... hmm ... if you have an ISO of Knoppix *+- you can use gparted to create an equal-or-larger *+- partition and then 'dd' the ISO into there. Then *+- run update-grub. ALWAYS be VERY careful with 'dd', *+- it's nickname is "Disk Destroyer" :-) I'm wondering in that direction ev'tho not sure what dd does. I'm thinking of copying the ISO to the Data partition and somehow running it from there (how?). Is update-grub on the GParted ISO? BTW, cfdisk and DD do not run in the ISO-Linux that comes with Knoppix and into which it crashes. It had a very limited busybox set of bash commands. One of the Quantian sites suggests cfdisk and dd. Apparently quantian.org is still up. The other thing I may just try to instal a different Linux and see how it behaves differently and then go back and apply the lessons. I really do need to recreate the old environment as closely as possible. (DOS+XP+Quantian, but that was a 2007 AOpen desktop) I will get back to this again over the weekend Most obliged. -- Vasos Panagiotopoulos panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---