Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: candycanearter07 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 19:20:05 -0000 (UTC) Organization: the-candyden-of-code Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <68057416@news.ausics.net> <401kdlxknd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:20:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bfb695e9a5b493f226489856e0e6b42f"; logging-data="3981730"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+6eyCqSpUpF0MAuUi1wQrk/bX5H68Kf4+t6HKrvjfxw==" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QZK1Xnz37hWDJWdzheKVBHhahi4= X-Face: b{dPmN&%4|lEo,wUO\"KLEOu5N_br(N2Yuc5/qcR5i>9-!^e\.Tw9?/m0}/~:UOM:Zf]% b+ V4R8q|QiU/R8\|G\WpC`-s?=)\fbtNc&=/a3a)r7xbRI]Vl)r<%PTriJ3pGpl_/B6!8pe\btzx `~R! r3.0#lHRE+^Gro0[cjsban'vZ#j7,?I/tHk{s=TFJ:H?~=]`O*~3ZX`qik`b:.gVIc-[$t/e ZrQsWJ >|l^I_[pbsIqwoz.WGA] wrote at 11:13 this Tuesday (GMT): > On 22/04/2025 10:27, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-04-22 11:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 22/04/2025 09:35, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-21 02:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> On 21 Apr 2025 08:24:22 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It sounds like they're talking about the cache in the drive itself, >>>>>> making sure data is physically written out before power-off. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, you could be right. >>>>> >>>>> I say “unfortunately“, because I think it’s a dumb idea for drives >>>>> to have >>>>> their own cache. >>>> >>>> Not at all. There is a huge speed improvement. >>>> >>> The key is to have a large enough capacitor in the drive to flush all >>> those caches on power off. >> >> Or power off by command, not pulling the cable. >> > The reason you pull the cable is > > (i) the electricity company did it for you > (ii) the power off button/command didn't work. > (iii) There was no swap left and you couldn't even log in to issue the > shutdown command I thought there's an OOM killer built in to prevent running out of ram? -- user is generated from /dev/urandom