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Subject: Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn
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On 2025-11-14 19:54, Rich wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 11/11/25 15:22, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>
>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> Probably like my experience with emacs as a Vim user. I use Gvim not
>>>>> because of the menus but so it spawns a separate window instead of
>>>>> grabbing a terminal. With emacs I was completely lost until it grew a
>>>>> menu.
>>>>
>>>> I am working too often via ssh on servers to like spawning the window.
>>>
>>> True. I use Vim when I'm ssh'd in. For me that's mostly a RPi 3+ on a
>>> robotic dog :) Even on the RPi 5 I'm more likely to use vncviewer. I'm
>>> flexible.
>>
>>    Um ... 'nano' works just marvy with SSH - and
>>    goes much quicker than any of those ancient
>>    line editors. Just sayin ...
> 
> So does Joe in its multiple variant configurations (as it is purely a
> terminal program).  So works over ssh, works over telnet (if anyone is
> still telnetting), works inside a screen session, works inside a
> splittv pane, works in an xterm, etc.

Does not work fully inside "tmux", some of the commands interfere.

^K^B   doesn't work, the ^B is intercepted because it is used by tmux 
itself.

> 
> But, no 'menus', so one does have to have the keybinding keystrokes
> memorized.  There is a WordStar inspired pop-up 'help pane' that shows
> the key bindings for those just starting down the memorize the keys
> path.

Wordstar could disable the menus, or have then appear after the first 
key press of a command. So press ^K and you would see the possibilities.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
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